SingleCut Beersmiths (November 2016)

Plus I think cases of the IPA (in bottles) at the brewery are generally between $70-$80 (the big IPAs being 80), so they give a 10-15% or so discount off the bottle pricing. At $4.50 a can (which is pretty standard DIPA pricing in NYC for 4 pks) x 12 with a slight discount leaves $50 12 pks in a best case pricing scenario probably. Realistically, probably a bit higher.

Not saying that's unfairly priced in the current market, but if 12 pk is the min I'll basically be never buying outside of scenarios where I'm hosting a bunch of people or to trade. There's simply too much good beer in the area and I don't drink enough to want to load up on entire 12 pks of 1-2 beers. I'm sure there will be great demand if it ends up being that price though, and I'll just keep enjoying pours in the taproom.

 

You could always buy a "twelve pack" of pretty much any SingleCut beer at the brewery for a discount. I believe it was mentioned before to be $80 as opposed to $96. That makes it about $6.67 for a 16.9oz bottle. Considering their history with the way they price things I'm going to assume for right now that 12 pack is still going to be $80 and they'll act like everyone is getting a huge bargain even tho you'll be getting less beer. That's just how they seem to operate there. No way in hell is it going to be $48 for a half case like every other brewery. If it is, I'll come back to this thread and proclaim myself the most wrong person in this thread.

 

SingleCut just commented on Instagram "there will be single cans available too"

 

just about everyone who has transitioned from bottles to cans has lowered their price. regardless of your clearly negative view of singlecut and their pricing. people said the same shit about trillium and their pricing, jacks abby saw a similar price decrease when they transitioned to cans...these guys do run businesses and have a fairly solid knowledge of their product cost and margins they'd like to achieve and price accordingly...if you honestly think they're going to sell $7-8 cans at the brewery you're crazy. people lose their damn mind paying $6 for grimm cans...im sure singlecut is well aware of industry dynamics.

 

3 4-packs at OH for me is usually 1 4-pack each of 3 beers. So buying a 12 pack isn't something I would purchase, unless it was Mo Shuggie like I said above lol

 

so its $5 a can, $20 a four pack, and some how they are calling 12 cans a case and thats going to be $60.......... I think im gonna have to pass, people will say its only 50 cents more per can than other breweries and while singlecut makes awesome beers they are not treehouse level, and when other breweries charge $20 its usually for higher ABV or a one and done, charging $20 bucks for beers they make all the time yet still have consistency issues with has me worried if they do make a higher abv or one and done beer it will be crazy expensive and have quality control issues. Oh well they seem like cool people so I wish them the best business

 

Oy. Yeah that's on the high end of pricing, unfortunately. Wish it was something like $5/can, $18/4 pk, $54/"case", but what can you do.

 

Where is this?

Im with you, that's pretty steep pricing for regular rotation DIPAs,

Not buy it.

 

The only reason I have a negative outlook is through experience with the brewery. I've been going since they opened and have purchased multiple bottles that have definitely not been up to par (gusher, off flavor profile, etc..) They also recently sent out a batch of brew they themselves admittedly said was different than it normally is yet still let it out the door. I will give them props tho! Over the summer when I was going on a regularish basis the crowlers, food, and service were all totally on point. So, I'll be more than happy to be wrong and get a discount on the cans over the bottles and say that I was wrong. Fingers crossed the beer holds up and SingleCut makes everyone happy.

 

they said the price in the comment section of the ssms can post on instagram

 

Agreed, I won't be buying it (at least, not this release) but I live really close to the taproom and I normally don't buy cases when I get beer.

For lots of people that buy SC stuff, this will be seen as a huge price cut, plus coming in cans is a bonus. My guess is they'll have good demand. I don't think cans will sit around for weeks like they do at Finback.

 

How is the latest batch of SSMS?

 

Am I the only one not offended by the pricing? Sure it is a little higher than some other offerings which are as good if not better, but not by a wide margin. Let's look at a few things here:

• First canning, feeling out the market, could achieve economies of scale and lower prices
• Avg price of current bottled offerings = $8-$12 (for 16.9oz)
• On average for a 4pack of 16oz cans, they are close to 50% less than what most people pay now
• Cans are a better/more convenient offering than current bottles
• Cost more than Other Half, LIC, and Interboro. However, you likely won't have to wait 3 hours in line and they are more established than the latter 2 (despite some consistency issues)
• Cost more than Treehouse/Trillium. Ok, we don't live in Boston and the implied cost of those cans is way higher than $5 based on time/travel or trade value.

I just don't see the complaints unless the beer ends up being of lessor quality in a can. You buy the same beer now, and it costs a hell of a lot more in the bottled format. They make really good beer, and assuming the consistency issues get worked out, I'll gladly pay $5/can. Whether it is better than other offerings in the city is debatable and in many cases they will lose out, but its high quality beer in a format everyone in this forum has been clamoring for. We like canned hops, and SC listened.

 

Considering the fact that I've always paid about $10 for a 16.9 oz bottle of SSMS ($8.99 + tax and deposit), grabbing a $5 can would be welcome to my wallet. I get the exhorbitant pricing discussions but this is a capitalistic society...earn as much as you can if people are willing to pay the price. These breweries are just following the market. One can only hope this move helps SC offer lower prices to us consumers.

 

I agree, I think it's not a logical comparison for people to try to compare SC or any NYC breweries cost for beer to say alchemist trillium & treehouse. Running a brewery is super expensive regardless of location but being in NYC is that much more expensive and difficult to start up. $5 a can is not the worst price I've seen on beer particularly when you see how expensive some of these beers are to make. Hops are at an all time high. mosaic prices are almost equivalent to NYC rent prices just keep going up with demand. I think everyone keeps talking about prices and complaining about them completely undermines the cost of running a brewery in NYC

 

But they distribute outside of NYC, where most other's can be had for much less than the $7 - $9 it cost for their bottles. I would estimate the typical prices of other breweries to range from $3- $6 bottle/can. As a result there are shops by me where SC just sits on the shelf and is not moving. I usually just buy SC when I find it for growler fill, since it's much cheaper at $10 or less for a 32oz fill. I bought a couple bottles of heavy boots at $8, which isn't out of the question for a BA beer. Also the consistency issues have me a little apprehensive, especially when you're looking at their prices.

All that being said, I would have no problem buying their cans at $5. When I was on vacation in Mass I think some of the Trillium I bought was at $20 - $22 a four pack.

 

Has there been a post from SC on what the price of the individual cans will be? They give a decent case discount on the bottles, I wouldn't be surprised if the individual cans are 6+.

 

have they said what the yield on each of these cans is going to be?

 

On the SSMS Instagram post they comment about pricing.

 

pricing per 12pk case, but not a 4 pack or singles. my point is indiv bottles are more than the case price, so it is within reason that the solo cans or 4pks are more than $20/4pk or $5/can.