Chicagoland NE IPAs (2018)

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  1. HouseofWortship

    HouseofWortship Pooh-Bah (2,735) May 3, 2016 Illinois
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    I know, I was making fun of the fact he quoted my post with the name of the beer in it by asking what the name was....
     
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  2. HugePrnceFan1999

    HugePrnceFan1999 Initiate (0) Nov 30, 2011 Indiana

    Are you guys enjoying this recent release of Galaxy Bowl? I enjoyed my draft at Bitter Pops, but the few cans I've had have really lacked carbonation and had sort of a Belgian IPA flavor. The yeast remaining at the bottom of the glass is not something I'm into, but maybe that comes along with the lack of filtration. I also picked up a 4 pack of Cumulus and have enjoyed that more.

    I'll probably give each another try tonight.
     
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  3. HouseofWortship

    HouseofWortship Pooh-Bah (2,735) May 3, 2016 Illinois
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    The yeast is the selling point of the NE style. Sounds like it has too much settling. One school of thought is to store in inverted and then when you flip it over to pour/open it should distribute the yeast back down or you can pour 2/3 of it into a glass and then delicately swirl the remains to loosen the yeast before pouring it into the rest of the glass. I can see it definitely being gross if the sediment is settling at the bottom....
     
  4. GuyFawkes

    GuyFawkes Grand Pooh-Bah (5,630) Apr 7, 2011 Illinois
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    I've said it before on here: I think the 2nd batch was a notch below the first.

    More bitter, less fruity.

    I still enjoyed it but it wasn't the juice explosion the first batch was.
     
  5. jed_productions

    jed_productions Zealot (554) Jul 2, 2013 Illinois
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    Why is it that a lot of these Chicagoland NE Style IPA'S pour clear leaving behind all of the yeast/sediment at the bottom of the can?

    I have never had this happen with a Tree House or Trillium IPA. They retain a hazy appearance without the need to be agitated, even after being in my fridge for 2 months undisturbed.

    This is one thing that had always bugged me about Mikerphone, Hailstorm, Hop Butcher, etc.

    I will add that Ram Juicy has also always retained it's haziness without the need to be agitated.

    Why is this?
     
  6. beerbelly_mike

    beerbelly_mike Initiate (0) May 19, 2016 Illinois

    I've never had this issue with SS or Cumulus. Not sure why any others have this issue though.
     
  7. SeanBond

    SeanBond Pooh-Bah (2,904) Jul 30, 2013 Illinois
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    I'd point out that the Alchemist's beers by definition have a large amount of sediment that has to be poured into the beer to make it hazier (that is...If you don't drink from the can! :grimacing:). The basic point is that there's nothing inherently wrong with either approach.

    It's possible that different breweries' processes and even equipment are adding to this; Half Acre saw the same beer clear at one brewery, and hazy at another. Same recipe and methods, different machines.

    Either way, I haven't been negatively affected by sediment collecting in any of these beers; I just pour until the yeast or hop resin, or whatever hits the beer, and it gets hazy again. :stuck_out_tongue:
     
  8. croush

    croush Pooh-Bah (2,407) Mar 20, 2015 Illinois
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    Similar to @beerbelly_mike , I haven't really had that issue with Mikerphone and Hop Butcher. It seems like some people, such as yourself, have had that issue, but I haven't.
     
  9. Zoomslowik

    Zoomslowik Savant (1,148) Mar 17, 2016 Illinois
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    I've definitely had it happen with Juicy and Galaxy Bowl. I just roll it a bit before opening and pouring and it's not really an issue anymore.
     
  10. HugePrnceFan1999

    HugePrnceFan1999 Initiate (0) Nov 30, 2011 Indiana

    I haven't had any in years, but to me Heady Topper often poured like a snow globe - small particles floating all around. The Galaxy Bowl wasn't like that. The last sips revealed a very small volume of nearly opaque beer due to the yeast remaining.
     
  11. SeanBond

    SeanBond Pooh-Bah (2,904) Jul 30, 2013 Illinois
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    Yeah, that's pretty accurate for the Alchemist beers I've had in general, but the ones with more sediment (Focal Banger and Crusher) have a lot that sits on the bottom of the can unless you try very hard to pour it out. While we're talking two different things in this case (hop sediment vs. yeast in GB), in my experience the concept has been similar--If I pour the entire can of GB into a glass, the yeast at the bottom (if there is any) dumps in and mixes with the beer, and the beer becomes fully opaque, if it wasn't already. In the same way, if I pour an entire can of Heady or Focal or whatever, at the end a big gloop (the scientific term) of sediment drops into the glass.

    I've definitely had cans/bottles of some local stuff like GB that required the full pour to fully mix the yeast. If Treehouse/Trillium stuff doesn't necessitate that, I dunno why that would be the case, but my theory is still that they're using different equipment or whatever.
     
  12. Chuckdiesel24

    Chuckdiesel24 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,208) Jul 6, 2016 Illinois
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    I've definitely seen this with Focal, but never seen it with Heady. Had each about 10-12 times, about half the time out of the can. I haven't seen it with any of the Chicago beers mentioned above (Mikerphone, etc.). The one other beer I can think of where I saw it was Lagunitas Born Yesterday.

    At the end of the day, it doesn't bother me. To each his own though, I can certainly see why it could bother someone.
     
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  13. SeanBond

    SeanBond Pooh-Bah (2,904) Jul 30, 2013 Illinois
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    Focal Banger > Crusher > Heady Topper in order of most sediment to least. Heady definitely has the least, although it's there (at least in the 4 cans I recently had). In Heady it's much more similar to some of the local stuff. Crusher has a lot of sediment, and Focal Banger...ugh (ironically, Focal is my favorite of the 3). I thought I remembered that last batch of Cumulus I had having sediment, but I could be conflating it with a couple other beers (one of which is Karben4's Fantasy Factory, another is Enjoy By: Unfiltered). The latest version didn't really, so now I'm doubting myself. :stuck_out_tongue:

    Either way, I agree that it's never been a detracting factor to me (either the overabundance or lack thereof), but I've seen some pretty crazy pours of some of these beers on BA that look nothing like what I've had, so people are clearly getting some weird shit in their bottles/cans.
     
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  14. ERRL710

    ERRL710 Initiate (0) May 6, 2013 Illinois

    Its because they use flaked oats...aka Flour to make it hazy :O
     
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  15. HouseofWortship

    HouseofWortship Pooh-Bah (2,735) May 3, 2016 Illinois
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    Yes, but if you bake Trillium or Treehouse in the oven at 350 degrees for 4 hours, you don't get a nice hoppy bread. :wink:
     
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  16. SeanBond

    SeanBond Pooh-Bah (2,904) Jul 30, 2013 Illinois
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    Wait, are we saying Trillium and Treehouse add flour to their beers to make 'em hazy? I knew that that was being done, but I thought it was being done by the "cheap knockoffs" of those guys.
     
  17. sahd-1

    sahd-1 Savant (1,179) Jul 2, 2013 Illinois
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    Yeah, I hope this is being substantiated by something. Otherwise there's potential for a real brew-ha-ha to start. Let's just not get the New Englanders involved in this thread...please. They already think their IPA-laced $h!t don't stink.
     
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  18. croush

    croush Pooh-Bah (2,407) Mar 20, 2015 Illinois
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    I think the statement (whether it was serious or tongue-in-cheek) was that Chicago area brewers add flaked oats...not that Trillium/TH do.
     
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  19. SeanBond

    SeanBond Pooh-Bah (2,904) Jul 30, 2013 Illinois
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    I initially read it that way, and then I think I misread @HouseofWortship's comment to imply the opposite.

    The only reason I ask is that I know that most of the ones here in the area don't add flour, and I've heard some do.

    Also, @sahd-1, agreed.
     
  20. ERRL710

    ERRL710 Initiate (0) May 6, 2013 Illinois

    No im not saying actual NE breweries are. Im saying a lot of the ones here in Chicago are...IE, Juice Pants, says flaked oats right on the label. Flour can be considered a flaked oat.

    and yes, it was tongue and cheek, isn't that what BA is for :grinning:? To make Tongue and cheek comments anonymously.
     
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