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Discussion in 'Homebrewing' started by maltmuncher, Sep 15, 2012.

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  1. boddhitree

    boddhitree Pooh-Bah (1,839) Apr 13, 2008 Germany
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    give it 2 weeks, then let it lager 2 or 3 more weeks before drinking. It's interesting to open a bottle after 2 weeks and check how it tastes, then open another 2 or 3 weeks later to see how the tastes change.

    The way I can tell if the beer isn't ready yet is when you drink it, you get this massive headache, almost like a brain freeze or like you suddenly have a fever, but then it goes away in 5 minutes. That means the alcohol isn't ready. Once you can drink it without the massive headache, it's ready to drink, proudly share with friends and show your wife how much it was worth all the brew day mess.

    My rule of thumb is that 5% beer is 4 to 6 weeks, 6% = 8 weeks, basically, for every extra 1%, add 2 to 4 extra weeks.
     
  2. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    You are joking, right?
     
  3. boddhitree

    boddhitree Pooh-Bah (1,839) Apr 13, 2008 Germany
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    no, that's what's been my experience when I've tried to drink beer that hadn't finished lagering
     
  4. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    So what do you think there is about the alcohol that's not ready?
     
  5. boddhitree

    boddhitree Pooh-Bah (1,839) Apr 13, 2008 Germany
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    Beats me, I'm not a chemist or biologist, it's just been my experience, and this "headache" didn't come with just a sip, but rather drinking almost 1/2 a 12 oz-er. It's always puzzled me why this affect occurs, after all alcohol is the same from week to week, isn't? Yet this has happened with almost every beer I've brewed since 1999, so that's how I learned when the beer was finally "drinkable." This has never happened to you?
     
  6. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    No. I have had a big beer with traces of hot (probably fusel) alcohols that have smoothed out after aging. But no headaches. The thing is...if you have enough fusels to give you an instant headache, no amount of aging/conditioning/prayer is going to get rid of them. And I can't think of another chemical in beer that would cause a headache after half a beer.
     
  7. sarcastro

    sarcastro Savant (1,133) Sep 20, 2006 Michigan

    Maybe you should see a doctor about your symptoms.
     
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  8. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,647) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    Lagering cleans up diacetyl and acetaldehyde, the later is known for headaches and hangovers.
     
  9. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    My understanding is that acetaldehyde is indeed a factor in headaches, due to the human body metabolizing ethanol into acetaldehyde, but in larger amounts than would be present in beer. IOW, we make (not drink) the acetaldehyde that causes headaches. But assuming this understanding is wrong, how much acetaldhyde would have to be in the beer for a half glass to cause an instant headache?

    FWIW, I taste my lagers before lagering, and haven't tasted any acetaldehyde.
     
  10. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,647) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    Was saying that could be a cause. If you do a D-rest, that should help the clean up of acetaldehyde too.
     
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