100% BA Coton Trade Value?

Discussion in 'Trade Talk' started by DanGolfs86, Sep 24, 2012.

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  1. DanGolfs86

    DanGolfs86 Initiate (0) Dec 2, 2010 Illinois

    I had this the other day and OMFG, i need more. What is it going to take for me to have my dreams come true? Anyone trade for any recently?
     
  2. jp7161

    jp7161 Zealot (628) Dec 22, 2011 California
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    I traded a BA two turtle doves for one.
     
  3. hopsbreath

    hopsbreath Savant (1,157) Aug 28, 2009 Florida

    Coton was the Bruery's second anniversary beer. FYI, all of their anniversary beers are the same recipe but utilize the solera method which blends some older beer with the new product. This year it was Fruet and all of it was 100% BA unlike years past when Papier, Coton, and Cuir were available in 25% BA and 100% BA variations. Just an FYI if you didn't already know, landing Fruet would probably be easier since it was on shelves not too long ago for $30 a bottle.
     
  4. DanGolfs86

    DanGolfs86 Initiate (0) Dec 2, 2010 Illinois

    Yep, I'm a RS member so i've had Fruet, 100% Cuir, I just think that 100% Coton is my favorite so far. Fruet isn't bad but 100% Coton was better.

    I was a little sad to see that Fruet was only 100%, it ruined my vertical and makes me wonder how the Solera will work unless the Bruery has a few batches of non-BA Fruet to continue the 'pure' line. If anyone know's that...please enlighten me.
     
  5. Rempo

    Rempo Initiate (0) Jan 18, 2010 Indiana

    Have you had a 100% Cuir that was the same age as the 100% Coton? Have you had a Fruet that was the same age as the 100% Coton?
     
  6. DanGolfs86

    DanGolfs86 Initiate (0) Dec 2, 2010 Illinois

    I understand the age of the bottle is a huge factor but there exists the problem. To have a 100% CUIR with the same age i would have to wait a year, to have a Fruet with the same age i would have to wait 2 years.

    I'm a fairly impatient person when i find something i really really like. Plus who knows whether 100% CUIR / Fruet will drink the same after the same age, that's the whole point of the Solera isn't it? To see how much changes and how much stays the same when you have the same beer combined with the previous year(s). It just boils down to what i like now. If you know anyone with a bottle im on the lookout :wink:
     
  7. Patrick

    Patrick Initiate (0) Aug 13, 2007 Massachusetts

    The non BA anniversary beers were 25% BA I think.
     
  8. DanGolfs86

    DanGolfs86 Initiate (0) Dec 2, 2010 Illinois

    Yes, for typing ease i referred to them as Non-BA but they are 25% BA. Still doesn't answer how any subsequent 25% BA version will work. is that saying that 25% of that years non-BA anniv. beer is last years 100% BA version? Are the 25% BA version from the previous years combined prior to have 25% of the total bottle aged? Is your last name Rue and if so can you ease my headache and tell me your secrets? :slight_frown:
     
  9. ChiTownPackFan

    ChiTownPackFan Initiate (0) Jul 6, 2012 Illinois

    I'm with you Dan. I had a fresh BA Cuir a year ago and a fresh Fruet this year and much preferred the Cuir

    The previous blendings, barrels used, temperatures that they are stored at, etc. can all affect the finished beer. While the recipe's are no doubt the same variances will no doubt occur.
     
  10. stupac2

    stupac2 Pooh-Bah (2,031) Feb 22, 2011 California
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    So you're asking whether they age it in barrels or steel tanks? My guess is barrels. I think that's the entire purpose of the Solera. The 25% BA in the previous versions was probably just the Solera contribution, and the freshly brewed stuff wasn't BA at all, or very little of it was.
     
  11. DanGolfs86

    DanGolfs86 Initiate (0) Dec 2, 2010 Illinois

    I am just wondering that since the only did a 100% BA 'version' with Fruet how will they continue the Solara in the years to come unless they have a 25% BA version of Fruet lying around to make the next batch of 25% BA anniv. beer. Does that make sense? I am sure they age it in barrels I'm just curious as to how the lineage of the beer will be affected, if at all, by the fact that they only made a 100% BA 'version' this past year.
     
  12. ChiTownPackFan

    ChiTownPackFan Initiate (0) Jul 6, 2012 Illinois

    I think what your asking is where does the previous years contribution come from AND is it/was it a barrel aged beer AND if it was barrel aged, what percentage was barrel aged.

    My assumption is that they use the previous year's base beer (non barrel aged) to blend with the new base beer and then take that blend and put it into the barrels. Similar to using the White Sap (which is one of their non bottled bases) for their White Oak and the White Chocolate this year.

    But...as I am not a Rue, I could be completely off my rocker on this guess.
     
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  13. ChiTownPackFan

    ChiTownPackFan Initiate (0) Jul 6, 2012 Illinois

    From what I've heard there will only be 100% barrel aged versions going forward...but once again, I'm not a Rue, so I cannot say for sure.
     
  14. stupac2

    stupac2 Pooh-Bah (2,031) Feb 22, 2011 California
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    I don't think it does. So they have a bunch of barrels somewhere that are the "Solera" part. It's in barrels, almost certainly (the alternative is stainless tanks which doesn't seem in the spirit of Solera to me). So every year they take some of that out, blend it with "fresh" stuff, and then top it off with "fresh" stuff.

    The stuff they're releasing also goes into barrels, but it's different barrels (because it's a different blend, at least I think it is. If it's not then it's not, and the difference between "Solera" barrels and "release" barrels is just which ones they release).

    The only difference this year is that instead of offering a mix of "fresh" beer with BA "release" beer, they only offered the BA "release" beer. This procedure has no effect whatsoever on the "Solera" barrels that were held back.

    So, as I said, I think your worry about Fruet only being 100% BA affecting future years' blends is completely unfounded.
     
  15. DanGolfs86

    DanGolfs86 Initiate (0) Dec 2, 2010 Illinois

    So if what you are saying is true then yes I have nothing to worry about. If they have 'Solera Barrels' that have a non-100% BA version of Fruet in them, then that answers my question. I think what mad me a sad panda :slight_frown: is that I cannot compare, year to year, the 25% BA versions of the beers since my vertical was so "rue"dly cut-off. I guess i could do it with all 100% Bourbon Barrel Aged version but that means giving my first born for the Bourbon Papier and hoping they do 100% Bourbon aged versions from here on out.

    In all honesty, I love 'The Bruery' and the stuff they put out. When they do a beer they do it well, cough cough black tuesday cough. Oh btw anyone know if they have ever release the 'base' beer for Black Tuesday?
     
  16. stupac2

    stupac2 Pooh-Bah (2,031) Feb 22, 2011 California
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    ...What? How do you have a barrel with a non-100% BA version of something in it? It's in a barrel!

    What difference does it make that some are 25% and some are 100%? If your vertical is of the stuff they released on the shelf, well then there you go, you're done. I also have 25% versions of Cuir and Coton (no Papier, though I had one this week and it's not very good so I'm fine with that) and was ecstatic that Fruet was only 100% because 100% tastes better. I can't imagine being sad about this.

    I don't believe they have, and I doubt they ever will.
     
  17. Beerandraiderfan

    Beerandraiderfan Initiate (0) Apr 14, 2009 Nevada

    BA Coton Value?

    Probably like 2-3 of those for a King Henry :slight_smile:
     
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  18. Rempo

    Rempo Initiate (0) Jan 18, 2010 Indiana

  19. tacosandbeer

    tacosandbeer Pooh-Bah (1,760) Sep 24, 2010 British Indian Ocean Territory
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    why not just have some papier instead. cracking a few of these open during GABF.

    [​IMG]
     
  20. tacosandbeer

    tacosandbeer Pooh-Bah (1,760) Sep 24, 2010 British Indian Ocean Territory
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    we all can't be winners.
     
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