Monkish Brewing (December 2016)

I think this marks the 1000's time this comment has been made in a Monkish thread. we should celebrate

 

What can he really do about it? Report it to the ATF but I'm guessing they have far larger issues to worry about than some people making a few bucks by re-selling cans. He has no recourse on the glasses aside from perhaps pricing them at $25 himself at which point he is just sitting on a bunch of Tekus.

It's the same issue almost every hyped up brewery has at the moment.

Plus, this is America and I think the prevailing notion is that once a brewer sells it to you, he really has little recourse as it is no longer his property aside from reporting it to the ATF which, frankly, seems like a waste of time.

I think a bigger issue would be if bottle shop owners were muling up to get Monkish so they could put it on their shelves at a marked up cost. The state liquor control board will do something about a license holder who is illegally re-selling beers. Think Russian River is known for this.

 

Shaneal was still on for fills when I peaked in to see what was on tap.

 

4:40ish, right before the line to get in blended with the can line. I was just outside the door when I got in line

 

Ah, gotcha. I bailed on the tasting room because the line to get in was wrapped around the front at around 4.

 

I wish more people did. But I don't have kids of my own, I just think what is the kid going to do there? My complaint was why cant people toke up in a corner like a regular smoker?

 

Fair point on the taking up a corner.

I've had some guy's kid toss his toy, knocked over a basically full pour and then the dude just walked off - didn't even say sorry or anything. And while that may not be indicative of how all parents would react in that situation, the baby put us in the situation in the first place.

So, while someone smoking (regardless of what it is) is an annoyance, I have far stronger opinions on babies in breweries.

 

^ also, I do not have children so that might play heavily into it. To be fair, if I had children, I'd probably consider bringing them if that was the only way I was going to get sweet sweet beer in my mouth.

I'd at least pay for the guy's drink that my little one knocked over, though.

 

My point was reselling booze without an ABC license is illegal,eventually one of these business owners around Monkish is going to get fed up with it and actually call the ABC/ATF. The glassware is a different issue. I do agree with you regarding reselling through a bottle shop, but that is happening all over town, its nothing new. I had a bottle shop owner ask me if I wanted a can of Heady for $ 25 recently.

Cheers,

 

Monkish isn't selling without an ABC license, though. The neighbors can get fed up and probably make an issue out of the parking or the lines that obstruct the parking lot with the property owner/fire department/police. I just don't see how the neighbors can make an issue out of the secondary sales issue as that would be hard to prove and probably isn't what their gripe with Monkish is.

Even if the cash transaction is happening right outside of Monkish's door, I'm not sure that Monkish would the liable as they sold the beer legally just moments before.

I think the liquor board will take more action against license holders who are illegally selling beer from outside the distribution network than the ATF will against rogue secondary sellers.

...and no thanks on the Heady for $25...

 

Isn't TreeHouse selling by the cans (ex: 2 can limit) and not by 4 packs? And aren't they outside somewhere in the sticks? I haven't been there yet. I'm just going by pictures and by quotes.

 

Monkish may have a business interest in looking into the release process but I fail to see how they would be legally culpable to the ABC regarding it. (Also, not sure that the ABC board deals with unlicensed sellers - they manage the licensed businesses, AFAIK.)

Clearly the secondary market is driving the demand, so ultimately selling/trading beers is causing all the issues the neighbors are complaining about. But, as far as I can figure, the neighbors are more concerned with the symptoms than the actual cause of it. I'm sure none of them actually care if a customer sells a 4-pack to another customer. They just want to be able to back up their cars and leave the parking lot without having the maneuver through a sea of people.

I totally agree that it doesn't need to be illegal to tarnish the brand and I sure hope it is on Henry's radar. I think the altercation that OTB mentioned at the release before Christmas is far more serious in terms in bringing unwanted attention to Monkish.

 

Never been but someone I met in a Monkish line said that TH is in the middle of nowhere so, logistically, it is easier to deal with the swarm of people.

Parking is a bitch for Monkish releases - especially if you actually try to abide by the requests of the brewery/neighbors.

 

Didn't know that... but also not sure that is an option for Monkish.