Similar taste in different styles from the same brewery

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by JamesMN, Sep 29, 2012.

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  1. MarkF150

    MarkF150 Zealot (675) Feb 9, 2009 Massachusetts

    I came here to say this. I find that all of the Three Floyds hoppy beers have a very similar distinct flavor.
     
  2. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,647) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    Large breweries use base malt form the same silo for the beers, might only use 1 crystal malt.

    Water can easily be adjusted by a brewery that know what they are doing, some don't.

    Equipment has large influence on what a brewer can do while making the beer.

    Precedures thoughout the brewing process have a very large influence.

    Yeast has the largest flavor impact on a beer, and how the yeast managed in the fermentation process. The house yeast gives the house flavor.

    Question - do the people mentioning Sierra Nevada think that Pale Ale tastes like Kellerweis or Summerfest?
     
  3. afrokaze

    afrokaze Pooh-Bah (1,962) Jun 12, 2009 Oregon
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    SN, Firestone, Lagunitas, Stone, Deschutes, and Sam Smith are the ones that come to mind in a good way. Sierra Nevada has a nice mineral quality to their beers that I can't quite pin down the source of, but it complements their yeast & hopping schedules well.
     
  4. Lordquackingstic

    Lordquackingstic Pundit (998) Jun 14, 2011 New York
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    I find that all of Lagunita's beers have this underlying candy taste to them. Not like a super sweet candy taste, just an undeniably "this is candy" taste. Anyone else get this too?
     
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  5. fx20736

    fx20736 Initiate (0) Mar 7, 2009 New York

    To me all the Greats Lakes beers have a faint cocoa after taste to them. As a result I no longer drink any of them, except Eddy Fitz.
     
  6. afrokaze

    afrokaze Pooh-Bah (1,962) Jun 12, 2009 Oregon
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    Yeah I always notice this, pretty sure it has to do with a common malt bill and similar hop blends, it gives it a juicy citrus candy tint that works for them.
     
  7. herrburgess

    herrburgess Grand Pooh-Bah (3,077) Nov 4, 2009 South Carolina
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    I am pretty convinced that I can pick up the same 2-row pale malt character found in their pale ale in both of those beers (more so in the Summerfest).
     
  8. tylermains

    tylermains Initiate (0) Apr 6, 2010 Kentucky

    Ordering ingredients in bulk does this. Most places are limited to certain hops, grains, etc because it is more feasible to order bulk of that particular ingredient.

    House yeast strains and water composition are also at play.

    I can't imagine not having a running thread of personal touch in each beer. It only makes sense that a good brewer would bring everything together in a cohesive way. Little cogs in a big machine.
     
  9. JustinQ

    JustinQ Initiate (0) Nov 24, 2011 California

    It's just a house character, As far as the water and yeast strains and all, it is intentional to a certain extent. But I highly doubt folks are mixing their Flagship beer into all their brews. Just my two cents
     
  10. gigaknight

    gigaknight Initiate (0) Aug 12, 2010 Illinois

    Anchor Brewing has always stuck out in my mind when it comes to this phenomenon. It's not a bad taste by any means, but I feel like it's somewhat unbecoming on their Porter and Old Foghorn.
     
  11. Tamarack22

    Tamarack22 Initiate (0) May 19, 2011 Minnesota

    I don't mind when house flavors are subtle, but with some breweries it's overwhelming. Sierra Nevada is a great example, whatever beers they have planned for the future, we already know what they taste like. Picked up beer camp 12'er and wasn't surprised by any of them. All were well made beers, but quite predictable.
     
  12. Homebrew42

    Homebrew42 Initiate (0) Dec 20, 2006 New York

    When I learned of this I found it to be interesting, the fact the many (most?) breweries are using the same base malt in all of their beers, even if it's not stylistically appropriate. This is one of the things that I find to be attractive about The Brooklyn Brewery, they use stylistically appropriate (often imported) base malts in all of their beers, which is more expensive and requires more effort than what most others are doing (using the same cheaper domestic base malt in everything they brew).
     
  13. herrburgess

    herrburgess Grand Pooh-Bah (3,077) Nov 4, 2009 South Carolina
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    This is one of my biggest gripes with U.S. craft brewers who claim to produce German (or other European) lagers, as they're simply not going to get the appropriate flavors from American 2-row pale as they would from a true German pilsner malt. That being said, I am learning to appreciate beers like SN Summerfest or NB Shift for what they are: namely paler pale ales with that house character I like.
     
  14. BrownNut

    BrownNut Initiate (0) Jul 11, 2011 Florida

    A small brewery near me has this issue. All of its beers have this same offensive (to me) kind of roasty thing going on, and not the good kind of roasty. And it's in beers that you wouldn't expect roasty in. I can't tell if this is just what jumped up homebrew tastes like or if this is something they're going for. Do not want.
     
  15. JamesMN

    JamesMN Initiate (0) Jul 12, 2012 Minnesota

    This is actually the exact same issue I was having and why I started the discussion. I get this odd roasty malt taste that was okay in a Brown Ale but is really out of place in a DIPA. Maybe grains are accidentally getting burned on the bottom of the mash tun depending on how they heat it? Luckily, in my case, the hops cover the malt taste most of the time.
     
  16. Dools9

    Dools9 Pooh-Bah (1,788) Jul 5, 2011 Massachusetts
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    Harpoon's lineup comes to mind
     
  17. BrownNut

    BrownNut Initiate (0) Jul 11, 2011 Florida

    Funny you should mention that. The brown at the place near me is the one beer it's tolerable in, though not my favorite, but in the others it's not good and I can't escape it. What's it doing in a hefe?! And a cream ale and a red ale and an ipa and a...

    I pretend to like the beers when I go with my friends. It's nice to have a brewery nearby, or at least the idea of it is nice. Maybe they'll get better.

    I see you're in MN so it's not the same place. Otherwise I'd have asked. Maybe it's not so uncommon.
     
  18. JamesMN

    JamesMN Initiate (0) Jul 12, 2012 Minnesota

    Maybe it has to do with being a Small Brewery. They can't afford to dump a batch and don't have time to find out why there is an odd taste? Maybe bring it up with your friends next time you go and see if they notice.
     
  19. BrownNut

    BrownNut Initiate (0) Jul 11, 2011 Florida

    That would be fine for a batch or two, but this is consistent across their portfolio over time.
     
  20. 312HopBomb

    312HopBomb Initiate (0) Mar 4, 2012 Illinois

    New Glarus has a fruity ale taste that compliments most of their lineup but it is very subtle where it's not appropriate like a lager.
     
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