The unfiltered craze.

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by Tdizzle, Jan 24, 2017.

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  1. moonbrews

    moonbrews Initiate (0) Aug 11, 2010 Virginia

    Intended or not, did you enjoy the beer? If so, then it's a characteristic, not a flaw.
     
  2. Ten_SeventySix_Brewhouse

    Ten_SeventySix_Brewhouse Zealot (744) Jul 20, 2016 Indiana

    I disagree on a technical basis, but I agree with you in spirit. If the brewer did not intend it, it is a flaw. That's not to say that it can't be a good thing. Lots of successes were accidental.
     
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  3. oldbean

    oldbean Initiate (0) Jun 30, 2005 Massachusetts

    That might be the case for certain adjunct beers, but I don't agree that New England IPAs actually taste like juice. They taste like hops. New varieties of hops that have a certain fruity character to them, yes, but still hops. Put them next to a glass of Tropicana and it's not going to be hard to spot the difference.
     
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  4. Brent212

    Brent212 Pundit (914) Jan 13, 2014 California
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    In my twenty-something years of drinking beer I never heard anything about clarity being a strength, so it wouldn't have occurred to me that haze could be looked at as a flaw without reading about that concept on here.
     
  5. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    Yeah, same here. That's probably because clarity has been thought to be important since 1800s and in the 1900s became so common that it would have been taken for granted outside of the brewing and homebewing community.
     
  6. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    :grimacing:
    Or, a little further back:
     
  7. TongoRad

    TongoRad Grand Pooh-Bah (3,884) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    Plus, on a more important level, cloudiness or haze can be an indicator that something has gone wrong in terms of sanitation.
     
  8. LambicPentameter

    LambicPentameter Initiate (0) Aug 29, 2012 Nebraska

    Sure, but I guess my point was intended to be deeper than [shrug] "personal taste!" and more about it not being terribly surprising that people like a version of an already very popular style (IPA) that has lower bitterness and easy drinkability.

    As with many things, how complicated a question/answer is will often depend on how deep you want to dig.
     
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  9. meefmoff

    meefmoff Pooh-Bah (1,922) Jul 6, 2014 Massachusetts
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    There's a great saying regarding this that pretty much covers it:

    "The plural of anecdote is not data"

    :slight_smile:
     
  10. drew7777

    drew7777 Crusader (406) May 10, 2009 Virginia

    There's a lot of marketing (hype) and FOMO (fear of missing out) here too. Locally, The Veil releases ~2 new beers every week. Everyone has to try it, has to tick it, and there's a lot of social media from the brewery reinforcing this "don't miss the next best thing".
     
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  11. MNAle

    MNAle Initiate (0) Sep 6, 2011 Minnesota

    And, the tickers never realize they are being manipulated... :astonished:
     
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  12. HopsDubosc

    HopsDubosc Pundit (803) Apr 24, 2015 Vermont

    10-15 years ago all I could find at the store IPA-wise was Redhook or Harpoon. Maybe something by Magic Hat or Wolaver's if I was lucky. As a Vermonter I don't have a "good old days" clear-IPA benchmark like the West Coast examples the OP cites. Hazy or not, the new stuff is SO much better Redhook/Harpoon etc that given the choice between old/new I couldn't care less what it looks like poured into a glass... it could be purple for all I care. We live in a great time for this style.
     
  13. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,132) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    Given the choice between a beer that has been on the market for decades vs one that has been on the market for a week it's a no-brainer.
     
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  14. Ten_SeventySix_Brewhouse

    Ten_SeventySix_Brewhouse Zealot (744) Jul 20, 2016 Indiana

    Of course! Always go for the new one!

    ...right? :astonished:
     
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  15. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    We have reached the 6th page and not one mention of the word "crhazies". It would seem that this word has not taken hold.:slight_frown:

    Cheers!

    @Jaycase
     
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  16. SeanBond

    SeanBond Pooh-Bah (2,904) Jul 30, 2013 Illinois
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    Sounds like a challenge, @Jaycase!
     
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  17. Jonc

    Jonc Initiate (0) Feb 12, 2007 Missouri

    I think lots of folks want beer to look, taste and feel like OJ. I really enjoy this style of beer when I can get it. Twice this month I have looked at a magazine that had a picture of a "Beermosa" (beer + 1-2 Oz. OJ). Just today I picked up in St. Louis the "Sauce" magazine to kill some time while working. It had a picture of Beermosas that took up 3/4 of a page. They looked tasty, served in the fancy wine glasses. Servings looked a little small...and probably a little high priced!

    I never really pay attention to what a beer looks like; I've been a member of this website for over 10 years but have done zero beer reviews. Why? I am not qualified. I just don't care about what the beer looks like. Same goes for "lacing". I have a hard time understanding what is important about it to include it in a beer review. That leaves me with "taste" of which I have a hard time describing. I'm just not good at it.

    I'm kind of old school, I remember when many of the top beers on this website were Trappist beers. My favorite, St. Bernardus, was pretty close to the top also. Times have changed and beer is changing. Some of these hazy beers are the new top beers.

    I have learned much from this thread; I didn't know beer people were so divided on topics such as haziness or a certain style of beer. Along with that I have learned something of the brewing process which is always interesting. Stuff you wouldn't learn on a tour. Why do I like this style of beer? It tastes good. That's my answer!
     
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  18. Hwk-I-St8

    Hwk-I-St8 Initiate (0) Jan 22, 2016 Iowa

    Beermosa....no thanks. I love the NEIPA style, but they taste nothing like a beer mixed with OJ IMO.
     
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  19. ScaryEd

    ScaryEd Grand Pooh-Bah (3,793) Feb 19, 2012 New Hampshire
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    I just love IPA's. Clear, bitter, and palate destroying? Love it. Opaque, tropical, and soft on the palate? Love it.

    It's a style of beer where you get plenty of fruity flavors without having to order a "fruity" drink.
     
  20. Jonc

    Jonc Initiate (0) Feb 12, 2007 Missouri

    I feel the same way, I'll stick with the beer too.
     
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