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Anyone trade less because of the new trade forum?

Discussion in 'Trade Talk' started by OneBeertoRTA, Sep 11, 2012.

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  1. Overlord

    Overlord Initiate (0) Jun 28, 2007 California

    I am sorry that you are so terribly afraid that you will give in to temptation and CLICK ON A LINK THAT YOU CAN EASILY AVOID that the rest of us must go without, but ... actually wait, I'm not sorry at all. DON'T CLICK ON STUFF THAT DOESN'T INTEREST YOU.
     
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  2. Rempo

    Rempo Initiate (0) Jan 18, 2010 Indiana

    You're missing his point. The jokes here aren't funny enough.
     
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  3. cavedave

    cavedave Grand Pooh-Bah (4,145) Mar 12, 2009 New York
    Pooh-Bah Society Trader

    That's true. The unquoted part, and this part above.

    I remember watching crazy offers get attaboys, and there was discussion about them, in *gasp* the trade thread. and it was a drama on the board that was a part of it. For every "yo bro that won't get done, you are stupid" there was a big offer looking for a trade, something that also requires a lot of bumps. Who remembers that huge treyrab trade? It got bumped til it completed.

    We remember because it was dramatic, it was a part of what we enjoyed about trading, seeing those get made. Or when shogo decided to rebel against the ebay mentality, and offered nothing for a whale. And made the trade.
    Do people act like idiots sometimes? Is this a website of adults? Does alcohol play a role in things sometimes?

    Geepers sometimes I feel like my kids know more about computers than me, but it still cracks me up how thin skinned young folks are, and us old fart AOL 3.0 vets have such an easy attitude about it. Forums were forums back then this ain't shit. That said, younguns is the demographic to be catered to by this site, and the craft beer industry in general, so there you have ebay mentality and no replies in the ISO. Good or bad, tis whatit tis
     
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  4. BobZ

    BobZ Savant (1,193) Jun 24, 2009 Massachusetts

    For over a thousand generations, the Trade Police were the guardians of peace and justice in the Old Forum. Before the dark times... before the Empire!

    True Dat (just more unfunny crap:flushed:)
     
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  5. RC0032

    RC0032 Initiate (0) Mar 10, 2009 Illinois

    Would the forum be any fun without drama? What would we talk about at tastings?
     
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  6. Pahn

    Pahn Initiate (0) Dec 2, 2009 New York

    you missed the point. if i could just avoid

    "OvErLoRd'S jOkE fAcToRy: TODAYS TOPIC: LOLOLOLOL"

    i would. but terrible jokes and forum personalities will develop within that topic and others, and they will spread like herpes to beer talk, ISO:FT, etc.

    you can't find another forum for random chat? really?
     
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  7. BdubleEdubleRUN

    BdubleEdubleRUN Initiate (0) Jul 28, 2009 California

    I do this already, inside jokes with people from private convo's that bring the lulz. you mad?
     
  8. DrAwkward82

    DrAwkward82 Initiate (0) Apr 16, 2005 California

    I like the fact that the trade forum no longer allows replies. Some BAs seem to find it terribly hard to come to terms with the fact the BeerAdvocate is not reddit or 4chan.
     
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  9. Overlord

    Overlord Initiate (0) Jun 28, 2007 California

    You fear a disease, but the cure is even worse. We need to bring balance to the site.
     
  10. Overlord

    Overlord Initiate (0) Jun 28, 2007 California

    I totally get your point. Isn't it just horrible when people, instead of communicating directly, use facetious/sarcastic/humorous ways to convey their message? It's just so miserable. There's this discussion about a GQ article on the "five best beer cities" on the main page, and this one guy just comes in with a random, all-caps, obvious joke message that really doesn't contribute to the discussion.

    http://beeradvocate.com/community/t...-in-top-5-best-beer-cities.41954/#post-528192

    Oh wait, it was kind of funny, even though it was off topic and a bit "4chan-nish." I like that kind of stuff. Maybe I should tolerate it in other forums as well.
     
  11. DrAwkward82

    DrAwkward82 Initiate (0) Apr 16, 2005 California

    You missed the point: it's okay when I do it. :flushed:
     
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  12. Overlord

    Overlord Initiate (0) Jun 28, 2007 California

    [MANLY BELLICOSE LAUGHTER AND A CLAP ON THE BACK TO DRAWKWARD82]
     
  13. daysinthewake

    daysinthewake Initiate (0) Nov 13, 2010 California

    F.U.C.T. 4 LIFE
     
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  14. kmello69

    kmello69 Initiate (0) Nov 27, 2011 Texas

    My last name begins with an "M", in case you were wondering.....

    In all seriousness, i dont trade from here, because I have a few non-BA buddies across the country I trade with regularly, but from an outside perspective the trade forum seems to be becoming more like ebay - lots of people now seem to want to field offers, rather than be specific about what they're looking for. Blah.
     
  15. glitchedmind

    glitchedmind Initiate (0) May 8, 2012 California

    Not that it could have been prevented if replies were allowed in the forums, but I recently bm'd someone regarding some FBS. Their first response was, "yes, Im still open to trade, make me an offer". Knowing where this was going (and anticipating the response), I decided to play along. I offered exactly what they posted in the thread, as I thought it was a totally fair trade. After reading my BM, A couple hours later they replied that they had received a better offer. Which was nearly half of what he had actually listed in the posting.

    These styles of posts, people lying about the cost of bottles (while trying to trade $4$), and other shenanigans are starting to be quite commonplace since the inability to reply. Just my experiences.

    edit: posts that I have seen people lying about the cost of bottles were reported for the very reason, and were eventually deleted. Unfortunately, the person learned, and no longer posts the price in the threads. I'm pretty sure he is still doing it via bm though.
     
  16. Patrick

    Patrick Initiate (0) Aug 13, 2007 Massachusetts
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    Posts like this have always existed, at least in my experience.
     
  17. glitchedmind

    glitchedmind Initiate (0) May 8, 2012 California

    You are absolutely correct. They have, but with a lot less frequency.
    Sure, you can BM the user, but if they are knowingly "one upping" others, they are going to do nothing about it. Maybe chuckle, delete the BM, and continue about their business.
     
  18. Patrick

    Patrick Initiate (0) Aug 13, 2007 Massachusetts
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    I demand evidence.
     
  19. Czar_chasm

    Czar_chasm Initiate (0) Jun 20, 2012 Michigan

    I may be in the minority but when I am vague about what I'd like it's because I'm relatively new to the craft beer scene (at least the high end / rarer stuff) and don't really know exactly what I want until it's offered. I usually will put out a few specific wants and then say I'll entertain other should wants or offers. I don't really know a functional way to differentiate this from "auction" style posts so maybe it's useless posting this but I just thought I'd throw that out there...
     
  20. Czar_chasm

    Czar_chasm Initiate (0) Jun 20, 2012 Michigan

    I see what you're saying and I agree. I'm not sure how you can really combat / spot that though other than someone saying that directly. For example, a past trading partner posted an ISO recently that got a lot of responses. I BM'd him and he ended up trading with me as I was a past trading partner but there were a lot of other responses. Those who offered what he wanted might feel like someone else offered more, etc. Also, if you put up an offer and get a lot of interest all at once why wouldn't you take the best offer? To me, there's a ton of gray area that makes it impossible to correctly define / enforce.

    To the last point I think that's spot on. People have been very generous to me in my short time here and I try my best to return it. I regularly let past trading partners know special stuff I've been able to pick up. They don't always want it bad enough to trade for volume ( again, if someone is willing to give me something I want to try that's hard to get I'll probably trade volume with them over someone I've traded with that isn't willing to give that up) but I'll keep a few bottles around to send as extras during the next trade if they show any interest.

    tl;dr- I think I agree with you in principle but it seems futile to try to enforce rules regarding it on a forum...
     
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