Craft and imports grow, macro declines

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  1. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Because we all want "more"!?!:rolling_eyes:

    Cheers!
     
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  2. TongoRad

    TongoRad Grand Pooh-Bah (3,884) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    Here's a potentially fun idea :
    Blind taste-off between a good industrial AAL, good Mexican version and even an independent version (like Straub, Yuengling, etc.) . Maybe we could see if there's a big difference after all.
     
  3. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Michael, I am reminded of a past post on BA. This BA worked at a bar and he stated that his customers claimed they could taste the difference between the various Mega-Brewery beers. One night the Bud Light keg kicked and they didn’t have another keg of Bud Light so he put a different keg on the Bud Light tap (he mentioned either Miller Lite of Coors Light). Not a single customer made a comment to him after he served them the ‘new’ Bud Light.

    Cheers!
     
  4. TongoRad

    TongoRad Grand Pooh-Bah (3,884) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    I could see that, but those beers are the low end of the spectrum. Drinkers, too, I bet :wink:.
     
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  5. jmdrpi

    jmdrpi Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,989) Dec 11, 2008 Pennsylvania
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    I'm sure there is marketing research out there that answers this question - but I wonder if the growth in popularity of brands like Modelo and Tecate are related to a growing Latino population in the US?
     
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  6. SSGCujo

    SSGCujo Savant (1,083) Jul 12, 2016 Wisconsin

    I was at a beer tasting event in Milwaukee last year, and met two brewers that worked in the basement at the Miller Brewery. The beers they had were good and different than the macros. I have never seen the beers come out from Miller. The macros have too much to lose if the new beers bomb, it's all about $$$. The new trend for macros is to buy micros and reap their rewards.
     
  7. lordofthemark

    lordofthemark Initiate (0) Jan 28, 2015 Virginia

    You raise a good point. Most taprooms, and at least some brewpubs, have a very different atmosphere from many bars.

    For non locAL beers with a non bar atmosphere, I think beer gardens are interesting. There is one I have been to hear, a pop up site, sells mostly Greman beers, much more like a taproot vibe.
     
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  8. dennis3951

    dennis3951 Initiate (0) Mar 6, 2008 New Jersey

    That is exactly what is going on in NJ. The laws were changed just over 2 years ago and the number of small breweries exploded. They all seem to be doing well and are selling most their beer at the brewery.
     
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  9. Premo88

    Premo88 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,682) Jun 6, 2010 Texas
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    Lines suck, but I'd love to have that problem: multiple local breweries pumping out stuff that's popular. Depending on how you count them, we have just three here in Bryan-College Station, and one of them only opens their taproom on Friday-Saturday.

    Your story of the other night, though, very much makes me think of 8th Wonder pre- and post-super duper taproom. I visited that brewery 3-4 years ago before they opened the big taproom, and it was definitely close quarters. The line(s) weren't terrible, but you felt cramped and ... well ... just uncomfortable. Now you go there and wonder how they ever fill up all that space (I went on a Monday; I bet they *do* fill it up on the weekends).

    As for that 60% number, (again, apologies for repeating points I likely missed) I wonder if part of that isn't inflated because that number used to be 0% for most breweries. Like I say, here in Texas you couldn't sell your own beer on your brewery site until just a couple years ago. That's 0% for EVERYBODY.
     
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  10. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Grand Pooh-Bah (3,242) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    Believe it or not my friends and I did this maybe ten years ago. I think it involved the usual suspects, Bud, Coors Original, either High Life or MGD (maybe both), Pabst, Schlitz, Black Label, Corona, and a random Hacker-Pschorr or Hofbrau Helles.

    Corona won. The German import did terribly, looking back it was likely very old. This was WAY before I was checking bottling dates.

    Personally I find Corona (and other Mexican AAL) to have distinct tastes separate from your typical Budweiser/Coors.
     
  11. anfield86

    anfield86 Pooh-Bah (2,606) Nov 21, 2006 New Jersey
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    Sounds like a good idea. I'm always looking for a good excuse to blow money on Mexican food and beer!

    Tecate, sort of like Coors, has a distinct "yeasty" flavor versus the other major brands that taste much more generic IMO. At least in my mind that's how it is. It's well past due time for a blind taste.
     
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  12. TongoRad

    TongoRad Grand Pooh-Bah (3,884) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    I'm definitely game. I can't do it for a month or so, but will try to get something going after that.
     
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  13. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Grand Pooh-Bah (3,242) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    @TongoRad

    I actually found one post where I recalled this particular tasting. I couldn't quote it for some reason directly, but the quotation is pasted below.

    "Haha, I did the same thing a few years ago and also bought all my beer at Downtown Wine and Spirits.

    I predict Schlitz wins. It did awful during our tasting but this was before Gusto came out.

    Coors, PBR, and Narragansett did awful in our tasting I believe.

    Corona won believe it or not. We threw in a Hofbrau Original to compare and it was horribly skunked. This was before I became obsessed with checking freshness dates."
     
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  14. anfield86

    anfield86 Pooh-Bah (2,606) Nov 21, 2006 New Jersey
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    Agreed. It's definitely a summer thing anyway. Perhaps a Cinco de Mayo theme is in order...it happens fall on a Friday this year:grinning:
     
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  15. TongoRad

    TongoRad Grand Pooh-Bah (3,884) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    Niiice! Let's pencil this in, and post a reminder mid April.
     
  16. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    @TongoRad @AlcahueteJ @tzier

    I'd definitely expect you guys would/will find some noticable differences.

    Maybe a year or two ago I deliberately made a point of serial tasting of some non-US AALs (about 8 or 9, using the categorization on this site) that I'd never tried before. While it wasn't a blind or a side-by-side tasting (they were individually reviewed about a week apart), I still wanted to see for myself what they were like. (I figure that the ratings/reviews for AALs is the style most contaminated by negative biases.) While I found them all to be relatively lightly flavored and lacking in complexity, I am convinced that I did find some differences.

    Edit: Just be sure you avoid beers that rely on strong hop flavors for about a week in advance.
     
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  17. MistaRyte

    MistaRyte Pooh-Bah (2,681) Jan 14, 2008 Virginia
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    Is it the taste of antifreeze, maybe?
     
  18. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    There's no solid evidence of antifreeze as an additive in beer. There is, however, evidence that some folks have confused the name of a chemical found in antifreeze (propylene glycol, a synthetic chemical) with the name of a chemical occasionally used in some beers (propylene glycol alginate, which is derived from kelp) as an FDA approved food additive. They are, however, not the same chemical with the same effects.
     
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  19. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Grand Pooh-Bah (3,242) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    I dig Corona, what can I say? I just can't kelp myself.
     
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  20. MistaRyte

    MistaRyte Pooh-Bah (2,681) Jan 14, 2008 Virginia
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    I'm kidding, I like the occasional Corona myself.
     
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