Chicagoland NE IPAs (2018)

Then don't follow me on untappd if you don't like my posts bro hahaha

 

I was going to post that Untappd tick ratings and the word objective should never be present in the same sentence unless the word 'not' is front of objective (no double negatives please ). And logically, a tick score for one being collectively higher than another beer does not in itself indicate one beer is preferred over the other. Hell, I don't use Untappd myself so I suppose my vote doesn't count. But yeah, enough about Untappd and its uselessness hah

 

There's always the guy that says that.

When 200,000 plus people nationwide rate a beer definitively higher than 2,500 locals, it is well within reason to objectively say that the first beer is preferred over the second.

 

To be honest, you are doing fellow beer drinkers a disservice. Next time I buy a "NE IPA" based on all the 5 star reviews I'm invoicing you!!

 

Thanks for lecturing us when he's the guy who brought up Tree House.

 

And this is actually helping me prove my point. When a beer has 2,500 ratings, you can take them with a grain of salt. When a beer has over 200,000 check-ins, the OMFG BROZ are usually counteracted by the #NOTMYWHALEZBRO crowd and it will settle into a fair middle ground that is probably a fairly good indication of the overall feeling with regard to that beer.

Beer Advocate would also agree that Julius is a more preferred beer than Local Hero. No, not every single f'n person is going to agree with that. No one said that.

 

Did all of these people have both beers? And at the same time for a much more fair comparison? I don't think so. You cannot therefore state that one beer is preferred over another.

 

Oh god. It's a fucking general statement.

Vanilla Rye is a more preferred beer than BA Big Hugs. ZOMG but wait did everyone who had BA Big Hugs have Vanilla Rye and vice versa?

 

You missed my point. I'm saying Untappd or BeerAdvocate aren't the full population. And the remainder is a lot less likely to enjoy NE IPAs. It's kind of like polling all of New York and California and using that to predict a Clinton election win.

Take 2 closer comparisons. Compare PW NvU to TH Haze. Flagship DIPAs with very similar checkin numbers on Untappd and BeerAdvocate. Haze is rated a 4.5 on both. NvU is a 4.2 on both. My experience is that the friends I have who love craft beer but aren't on Untappd or BA would flip those two. And I'm saying there are a lot more beer drinkers not on these sites than those on these sites.

 

Again, unless someone has had both beers you cannot state one is preferred over another. You can say one has a higher collective tick rating than the other but you cannot say one is preferred over the other. The definition of prefer is "like (one thing or person) better than another or others". It seems fairly straightforward to me.

 

Your anecdotal experience trumps 200,000 check-ins + countless others who haven't had a chance to try it. Got it.

 

Yes, you can. Rome is a more preferred vacation destination than Gary, IN.

 

I could be wrong, but I doubt I'm off generally. A lot of other people on this and other threads have pointed out this fact.

You're still using NY and CA to predict all of America. Maybe it's a good indicator. But maybe it's not. Even if my experience isn't indicative - do you really think Untappd is a reasonable approximation for all beer drinkers?

Also - Green (30,000) and Julius (40,000) have about 75k checkins - that's still alot, but it's worth pointing out. That's the number that drives the rating.

 

For those individuals given a choice between Rome and Gary, IN as a vacation destination, Rome is the preferred choice. See, it's a comparison of two options. Thanks for supporting my prior post

 

And there are still A LOT of craft beer drinkers who have never had access to those beers who may very well prefer those beers. We just don't know which way they would go because new people get turned onto the style all the time. I know a number of people who generally dislike craft beer but have enjoyed Julius.

75,000+ ratings (200,000+ check-ins) at 4.5+ vs. 9,700 ratings (12,000 check-ins) at 3.91 for Local Hero.

I would argue that untappd/beer advocate is as indicative of all craft beer drinkers as anything we have access to.

 

I didn't say between people given a choice. You inserted words into my statement to make them support your prior post. Try again.

Rome is a more preferred vacation destination than Gary, IN.
Julius is a more preferred beer than Local Hero/Galaxy Bowl.

See how that works?

 

Personally, I started following this thread because I'd not had much experience with NE IPAs. As a whole, it has been a really good resource for seeing what the local places are up to. Given how much hype surrounds the style, I was genuinely excited to see folks around here trying their hand at it. Now that I've had a fair sampling, I've come to realize that it's just not my favorite. Maybe that would change if I tried some of the more lauded east coast beers, but obtaining them is more effort/hassle/expense than I'm willing to put forth.

As for this thread, I'll keep following because I like trying new things. And again, it's not like these are bad beers. Last I checked, "not my favorite" is compatible with pretty good. I'll pick up 4-packs of Cumulus, pop into Noon Whistle on the way back from my parents' house, and stop by Transient on my way to visit friends in Michigan. That said, there's no way in hell I'm hauling my butt to Schaumburg and back, dropping everything to rush out to a shop, or waiting in line for any of this stuff.