Minnesota "NE style" IPA's

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  1. mkhartnett

    mkhartnett Savant (1,160) Oct 27, 2010 Minnesota
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    I sure as hell don't, but hey, if it tastes good, I'll drink it.
     
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  2. KarlHungus

    KarlHungus Grand Pooh-Bah (3,315) Feb 19, 2005 Minnesota
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    I think you're right on. The hazing appearance and juicy taste and texture are paremount to the style. I think some people here are mistakingly thinking East Coast IPAs, and New England IPAs are the same thing.
     
  3. McDuck06

    McDuck06 Initiate (0) Mar 6, 2015 Minnesota

    I have a good understanding of what qualifies as a NE IPA, but would people that have had it say Pulpit Rock's Loopy Lynn approaches the style? I know it's not quite Minnesota beer, but just curious to people's opinions. I haven't had a chance to sample anything from Forager or Disgruntled, so I can't comment on those, but I don't believe I've stumbled across much of anything in the Twin Cities area that would qualify as a true NE IPA. I have yet to try Insight East IPA and am hoping it is an attempt. As far as I know, Blissful Ignorance is not a NE IPA in the slightest (though I really dig that beer).
     
  4. cmannes

    cmannes Pundit (967) Mar 15, 2009 Minnesota

    Hazy, Juicy, low bitterness. Although it's interesting, in this link from AHA, they have quotes from brewers who claim the haze is more a side effect, then an intended goal.

    https://www.homebrewersassociation.org/how-to-brew/tips-brewing-new-england-ipa/

     
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  5. JakeJohnson

    JakeJohnson Pundit (897) Jan 30, 2015 Minnesota
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  6. nmoe

    nmoe Zealot (510) Dec 18, 2015 Minnesota
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    I don't think it is. Just brought back a bunch of Trillium compared to having a growler of Loopy Lynn in January. The Trillium has a very different mouthfeel. Much softer and smoother. There is very little harsh bitterness from the hops as well. Just my take on it.
     
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  7. nograz

    nograz Maven (1,424) Oct 30, 2013 Minnesota
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    I agree, the mouth feel seems to be the most lacking part to the attempts of the NE IPA around here. They just don't have that same softness that I have experienced from Trillium, Tree House, ect...

    I wish Sisyphus would brew Cloudy with a Chance of Yeastballs again. We used white wheat in it, which did give it a softer mouth feel, not like Trillium/Tree House, but make some tweaking of the wheat (flaked or even flour or maybe some oats) it could get closer. It also sounds like Sam has done research on hop techniques that could also help.
     
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  8. gatornation

    gatornation Grand High Pooh-Bah (10,388) Apr 18, 2007 Arizona
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    Sure techniques in Dry hopping, yeast and water ,grains and oats all play a part.
     
  9. McDuck06

    McDuck06 Initiate (0) Mar 6, 2015 Minnesota

    I'd have to agree, but it's about as close as I've had from the general area. However, using TH n Trillium as the standard sets the bar awfully high! It's so hard to put everything in style buckets anymore. It's always a fun chat, though. Cheers!
     
  10. SipIt

    SipIt Pundit (752) Jul 18, 2013 Minnesota
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    Photo comparisons of the hooey I had the other night and OJ. Again, is it a perfect ne IPA, idk but it is a tasty cloudy, juicy, IPA.

    Ok, Apparently I don't know how to post from photobucket anymore. Which link is it you copy again?
     
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  11. gatornation

    gatornation Grand High Pooh-Bah (10,388) Apr 18, 2007 Arizona
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    [​IMG]Disgruntled Stupid Good is the closet ive had to Treehouse in MN, both in look and taste , however the 6 or so TH brews ive had in this recent year were all > than this one.
     
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  12. dbhammel

    dbhammel Initiate (0) Oct 24, 2016 Minnesota

    Just for the record flavor and aroma >>> appearance. Yes, NE IPAs have the side effect of being very hazy but this is not the primary objective. I've had plenty of lousy hazy beers and plenty of terrific crystal clear beers.
     
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  13. Ish1

    Ish1 Initiate (0) Feb 25, 2010 Minnesota

    ^^This. I think this is the key point is saying BA's in here don't know what a NE IPA is. Something new comes out and it's hazy and it immediately is posted in this thread. Blissful Ignorance is a good example. Hazy, tasted great but definitely didn't have the mouth feel or juiciness.

    BTW, Reaper > Stupid Good IMO!
     
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  14. nograz

    nograz Maven (1,424) Oct 30, 2013 Minnesota
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    In all fairness, Lupulin has touted Blissful Ignorance and Hooey as NE style, it is right on the can for Blissful.
     
  15. gatornation

    gatornation Grand High Pooh-Bah (10,388) Apr 18, 2007 Arizona
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    Just hit right click "copy Image" then hit paste to you post. From Photobucket.
     
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  16. McDuck06

    McDuck06 Initiate (0) Mar 6, 2015 Minnesota

    I saw that, but didn't feel it fit the style in my opinion. However, who am I to argue w people who brew beer for a living? Again, strictly using TH n Trillium stuff to define a style may be a little unfair. I'm not saying everyone is doing that, but most reference them in this thread. And if that's the case, I'm curious if my opinion is strictly based on the quality I've had from them or if Blissful truly matches the style in question. My gut says no on Blissful Ignorance, but I'm open to be called a dumbass! In a way I may be Blissfully Ignorant to the true style....too obvious?!?! Yep, I'm a dumbass.
     
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  17. SipIt

    SipIt Pundit (752) Jul 18, 2013 Minnesota
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    I don't think blissful ignorance qualifies on multiple levels, taste, mouthfeel or appearance. It's a very good grapefruit iipa w I nice bitter bite.

    Hooey def qualifies in my book and I do feel I have a reasonable understanding of what an me IPA. I'm def not confusing it we an east coast IPA.

    One more try on adding a photo (and yes I realize it's not just the cloudy appearance).

    [​IMG][​IMG]
     
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  18. DriftlessFarmer

    DriftlessFarmer Initiate (0) Dec 15, 2016 Iowa

    The first time I had Saftig I thought it reminded me of Treehouse. Most current/recent PR IPAs (including Loopy) have the haze and soft mouthfeel it seems.
     
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  19. jjbehren

    jjbehren Initiate (0) Apr 23, 2009 Minnesota

    I had Reaper at Grizzly's a while back and was blown away. Never had Stupid Good, but I have had a handful of Trillium IPAs, and Reaper was better, IMO. But the Trilliums were a little old, so I'm sure that played into it.

    Reaper isn't a grapefruit IPA, is it? It was so citrusy that I thought they may have added something to get it to that next level.
     
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  20. Ish1

    Ish1 Initiate (0) Feb 25, 2010 Minnesota

    IDK, drinking a Blissful right now and to me there is way too much bitter bite for this to be a juicy NE IPA. I'm not sure if I just don't fully understand the style or the brewer was trying to jump on the hype train. But, to be clear this is a damn good beer regardless of style!
     
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