Should brewers label updated beers differently?

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by bobhits, Mar 20, 2017.

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  1. patto1ro

    patto1ro Pooh-Bah (2,084) Apr 26, 2004 Netherlands
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    Not big enough to warrant a label change.
     
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  2. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    So, do you have an example of what would constitute "big enough"?

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  3. patto1ro

    patto1ro Pooh-Bah (2,084) Apr 26, 2004 Netherlands
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    Several new ingredients or one really dramatic one. Something that changes the character of the beer significantly.
     
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  4. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Well, needless to say the term "significantly' is subjective but I think I am getting your perspective here.

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  5. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,132) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    Keep in mind that @patto1ro 's research has probably revealed many cases of huge changes made over time to beers that have kept their name regardless.
     
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  6. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    I am a more contemporary kind of a guy!:wink:

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  7. bobhits

    bobhits Maven (1,498) Oct 31, 2006 Ohio

    This might be perhaps my biggest issue. With stone (the 1.1 wasn't noticed till I tasted it and wondering what in hell I'd bought) or west coast, those were flagship beers and they'd been very consistent for years. Now I'm a bit confused why people didn't make a Stone IPA 1.1 beer for review, it's been out long enough where I won't be adding it, but it does somewhat bother me that I have a glowing review for a beer that I'd now rate 1.5 points lower. I fully support the decisions by the site, thanks to todd for posting, on not making it a new beer, but this seems like an issue for the brewery too. If I go and read the top reviewers comments and it sounds like he/she is drinking a different beer is that good for the brand?

    So for flagship beers, or classics that really have a large fan fair, I'd really appreciate new labels even if the changes are small (unless it's based on supply or something like that).

    For annual releases or small batch beers, I'm a lot more open.
     
  8. KingCobra686

    KingCobra686 Initiate (0) Aug 13, 2014 Connecticut

    Dont think there is one single answer to this question.

    -If the difference is just a small tweak in the recipe then it doesnt seem necessary and would be a lot of trouble for no real benefit to customer or brewer.
    -If the beer is constantly being changed but sold under the same label and name, it is in a brewers interest to either rebrand or state that its a rotating recipe, like Nightshift Morph. If they dont do that they risk being seen as a brewery with poor quality control and lots of batch variation.
    -If the difference is a massive change to the beer and the final taste, then a rebranding seems necessary. Customers dont want to be blindsided by a completely different beer than they wanted to drink.
     
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  9. rgordon

    rgordon Pooh-Bah (2,701) Apr 26, 2012 North Carolina
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    If they kept the name and said something prominently like, "we've found a way to make your favorite beer better" , I think they might gain customers. There are a number of breweries that I would trust to continue working on recipes of their best proprietary iconic beers.
     
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  10. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Dick, is Sixpoint on your list here?

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  11. thuey

    thuey Pooh-Bah (1,705) Nov 13, 2015 California
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    Does Luponic Distortion Rev ### count?
     
  12. patto1ro

    patto1ro Pooh-Bah (2,084) Apr 26, 2004 Netherlands
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    Exactly. Barclay Perkins X Ale is a good example. It was several totally different things over its 120 year life.
     
  13. rgordon

    rgordon Pooh-Bah (2,701) Apr 26, 2012 North Carolina
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    Interestingly, I have never tried any Sixpoint beers. But from what I have read they seem to be versatile and trustworthy for sure.
     
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