WARNING: If You Do Not Support Your LHBS It Will Close.

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  1. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    Hopefully those are the shops that do close up.
     
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  2. Jaguar10301

    Jaguar10301 Crusader (423) Mar 1, 2010 Maine

    Some more thoughts.

    I wouldn't have a problem paying a premium to support a local business but it's the absurdity of the costs and the lack of anything to help you with it.

    A LHBS should team with with homebrew clubs and offer a discount. They should offer bulk pricing. I shouldn't pay the same cost/lb for a 55lb sack as I do for 8 oz. Be friendly and helpful and know your stuff.

    I got a 50 ft wort chiller for the same price my lhbs was charging for a crappy 25ft model. It's just not feasible.
     
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  3. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    I don't go to a LHBS for advice. I go mostly for yeast and odds and ends. It seems to me most new brewers need some advice and like to one stop shop. At some point though, new brewers discover they can take the training wheels off and forego the basic advice and packaged kits...either that or they decide homebrewing is not for them. I'm glad there are LHBSs within 125 miles r/t of me, but I don't believe I need to subsidize their existence in the age of internet.
     
  4. Jaguar10301

    Jaguar10301 Crusader (423) Mar 1, 2010 Maine

    you are right and that was my experience. I like the idea of having a shop though. I can't tell you how many times I broke a hydrometer (I keep 2 now) and needed one, or I forgot I needed such and such ingredient, or whatever and the ability to run over on brew day or the day before is nice.

    Also if they all die off then the new brewers will have a harder time. I could probably live without one but I do like the idea of local small businesses. Small businesses are the backbone of america but unfortunately due to our fear of big businesses we saddle them with the taxes and regulations of a big business. Those who can lease afford to deal with it...

    Sigh, rant off
     
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  5. utahbeerdude

    utahbeerdude Maven (1,374) May 2, 2006 Utah

    Of course I order from the interweb sometimes; I've got a whole freezer full of hops to show for it. But I'm really fortunate to have been able so shop at the same home-brew shop for the past 18 years. It's a little hole-in-the-wall, but the proprietor (its a one-man operation) has in stock most anything one would ever need, including all kinds of hardware bits. Nearly everything is priced better than what one typically pays on the interweb; for example, I just paid $2.95/lb for DME. Cheers!
     
  6. makisupapolice14

    makisupapolice14 Pundit (799) Jun 5, 2005 New York

    What's the name of it? Visiting Cleveland this week and curious to drop in.
     
  7. invertalon

    invertalon Pooh-Bah (2,249) Jan 27, 2009 Ohio
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    Cleveland Brew Shop. Right across the street from Platform, near Ohio City (where Great Lakes, Market Garden, Hansa and a few others) are located. Closed on Mondays.
     
  8. makisupapolice14

    makisupapolice14 Pundit (799) Jun 5, 2005 New York

    Thanks! Excited to check out hansa. Staying in tremont. Any cant miss beer or food spots you recommend?
    s
     
  9. invertalon

    invertalon Pooh-Bah (2,249) Jan 27, 2009 Ohio
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    @makisupapolice14

    Do you have a car? Or want super local to Tremont stuff? I live a few minutes from Tremont so I know this area very well, but it depends on how far you are capable of going.

    My #1 pick for all of Cleveland beer wise would be Fat Heads. Easily. But it's a solid 20-25min drive away from Tremont.

    Platform would probably be my #2 pick for the area.

    Tremont is stacked with awesome (higher end) cuisine, depending on your style of food you like. Any focus you are after?
     
  10. Merak

    Merak Initiate (0) Jul 8, 2012 Wisconsin

    I'm re-entering homebrewing after a 15 year hiatus. When I stopped, there were shops everywhere, now we have three in Minneapolis St Paul and two are owned by AB now. I have been picking up most equipment off Craigs list and was wondering if shops should try selling consignment equipment to assist with the bottom line?
     
  11. makisupapolice14

    makisupapolice14 Pundit (799) Jun 5, 2005 New York

    Hey love fat heads and platform. We will do both for sure again. What are your next picks? How about in Tremont?
     
  12. chavinparty

    chavinparty Zealot (653) Jan 4, 2015 New Hampshire

    I do love their pricing but they always nail me on shipping
     
  13. EvenMoreJesus

    EvenMoreJesus Initiate (0) Jun 8, 2017 Pennsylvania

    When I broke my last hydrometer, I just shrugged my shoulders and said, "I hated that fucking thing anyway." Never did get a new one. It's been years. I figure that my process still makes beer, so I'm pretty happy.

    True story.
     
  14. rocdoc1

    rocdoc1 Savant (1,215) Jan 13, 2006 New Mexico

    They can't blame me, the closest on is almost 300 miles away.
     
  15. ThatsHowYouGetAnts

    ThatsHowYouGetAnts Initiate (0) Jan 15, 2016 Massachusetts

    Is beer on tap a thing homebrew shops do? I've never seen it. I've only been in a few stores though and all in Massachusetts which has pretty strict rules on having fun.
     
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  16. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    It probably requires a Brewery license wherever it is permitted, but here are two that I ran across in Florida:
    https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/40139/?view=beers
    https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/18159/?view=beers

    The first one has home brewed beers on tap, but maybe most of the beers are from the brewery owner. (I don't recall for sure. I also don't recall if it sells homebrew supplies.)

    The second one is a homebrew supply store that has a bar, but I'm pretty sure that some of the beers on tap were homebrewed. (Again I can't recall for sure.)
     
  17. plaztikjezuz

    plaztikjezuz Initiate (0) Dec 19, 2004 Michigan

    This sounds like it would make sense but this is generally not how they do things.

    I have worked at two shops that have attached breweries (Kuhnhenn & MBC) and neither really did much swapping. There are some reason why. The fed sometimes looks at total fermentables bought by the brewery and they have a formula to see if they have paid all their taxes based on what was bought. Now they can show the grain/hop sales from the store to prove they paid the right amount.

    But from my experiences the two separate business stay separate.
     
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  18. plaztikjezuz

    plaztikjezuz Initiate (0) Dec 19, 2004 Michigan

    Michigan* it is legal to have samples that customers can see if they like the way the product tastes.

    We have one. The keezer is a sales tool to show people how the kits taste and how easy it is to keg.

    *Sen. Rick Jones was trying to change this a few years back with the nuisance law he was try to pass. This law did not specifically target LHBS but they could be affected by it.
     
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  19. jmdrpi

    jmdrpi Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,989) Dec 11, 2008 Pennsylvania
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    My local shop in PA does this.
     
  20. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,647) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    My local shop has samples from a Keezer.
     
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