Feelings on IPAs with adjuncts?

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  1. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    It's good to note that by "Asian Rice" you are talking about a variety of rice rather than rice imported to the U.S. from Asia. Many (e.g. AB haters who think rice cheapens beer ingredients) don't realize that the rice used in Bud brewed in the U.S. and is contacted for and grown in the U.S. and so isn't necessarily cheaper than Barley.
     
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  2. Leebo

    Leebo Initiate (0) Feb 7, 2013 Massachusetts

    Not a fan. Lambics? sure. Fruit in my ipa, not.
     
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  3. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    I typically am not a fan of fruited IPAs but there are exceptions. Fro example, in my opinion a fresh Grapefruit Sculpin is a genuine joy to drink. Whenever I see that beer on tap I request a sample pour and then subsequently order a pint f the sample tastes fresh.

    Cheers!
     
  4. EvenMoreJesus

    EvenMoreJesus Initiate (0) Jun 8, 2017 Pennsylvania

    Although these sentiments are taking away from the discussion at hand, calling any beer additive an adjunct is one of my biggest peeves.

    Please stop calling additives adjuncts. It's incorrect and makes one sound uneducated.
     
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  5. SteveSexton203

    SteveSexton203 Initiate (0) Feb 19, 2014 Connecticut

    Your Peeve is exactly the definition of an Adjunct in brewing terminology. Anything used in a beer ingredient that is additional though it may be beneficial and attractive is an Adjunct. Adding flake oat to an IPA like in the NE Style is an adjunct. Adding Wheat to a Pale Ale is an Adjunct.

    So kojevergas is right in terms of brewing.
     
  6. EvenMoreJesus

    EvenMoreJesus Initiate (0) Jun 8, 2017 Pennsylvania

    Non-malted grains are certainly adjuncts. However, fruits, vegetables, herbs, and spices certainly are not. I did not make up this definition. Many people are using the word "adjunct" incorrectly and need to stop doing so. @kojevergas is certainly correct and that's why I quoted him. The OP, however, is part of the "problem".
     
  7. raynmoon

    raynmoon Initiate (0) Aug 13, 2011 Colorado

    exactly. Fruits and spices are just that, fruits and spices. Brewing adjuncts add qualities during the mash and boil; carbohydrates. We can only hope people catch on to this.
     
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  8. marquis

    marquis Pooh-Bah (2,313) Nov 20, 2005 England
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    More than this,the term adjunct was introduced to describe ingredients which required the presence of enzymes in the malt to convert their complex carbohydrates into fermentable sugars.They also had the desirable effect of reducing haze components.
    Think of the people on a cruise ship.The passengers are the extra ingredients but the crew are the adjuncts.
    Unfortunately so much material on beer are the subject of cut and paste with no reference to original research. So errors and misinformation keep on cropping up.
     
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  9. ScaryEd

    ScaryEd Grand Pooh-Bah (3,793) Feb 19, 2012 New Hampshire
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    On the topic of IPA's with fruit or flavors added, I suppose it depends. I actually haven't had too many, surprisingly. Grapefruit Sculpin is ridiculously good. I think I had one from Burlington Beer Co. on tap once, but I don't remember it so I mustn't have been too keen on it.

    I'll try anything though, and if it's good, I'll continue to drink it. I have no problem with brewers trying to enhance the flavor of their beers. Although as many have already stated, hops tend to impart many fruit flavors on their own, depending on how they're used.
     
  10. mkh012

    mkh012 Pooh-Bah (1,787) May 7, 2015 Colorado
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    Tired Hands is one of my favorite breweries and the one that really started my craft obsession. A good deal of their beers are conditioned on things, fruit included, and many of them are fantastic (Such Passion, Mosaic MagoTago, Vanilla Milkshake, etc.). There are definitely some "misses" in the bunch, but it's all in the name of experimentation in my opinion. At the end of the day, if it's good it's good. They don't need to do this (see: any of their super good but more straightforward beers like Alien Church) so I don't feel they're cheating or anything.
     
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  11. cavedave

    cavedave Grand Pooh-Bah (4,157) Mar 12, 2009 New York
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    Thank goodness someone finally brought this up. :wink:
     
  12. Kb024

    Kb024 Initiate (0) Jun 11, 2015 California
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    Bitter Brothers Prodigal Son Amarillo IPA... Single hop orange bomb... Better than any blood orange ipa ive had. No juice needed.

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    I love the ipas that are fruity tasting without any fruit juice added. I just tried Unfiltered Sculpin fresh on tap. It tastes like orange and grapefruit. Its the best of the Sculpins to me. The Ballast Point Manta Ray dipa Is also very fruity. Doesnt need any juice.
     
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  13. EvenMoreJesus

    EvenMoreJesus Initiate (0) Jun 8, 2017 Pennsylvania

    Couldn't have said it better myself.

    However, as a business if you can take one beer and add a bunch of different fruits (and vegetables and spices) to it and effectively make that one beer into a dozen beers, and, in turn, sell more of that one beer, why wouldn't you want to?

    In other words, even if I, personally, don't like the concept, there seems to be a healthy market for fruited IPAs.

    And to the breweries that are adding fruit extract, please stop it. Was just in Cleveland this past weekend and picked up a sixer of Hellamango from Market Garden. I knew that I should have tasted it first, but I was in a hurry. The fake mango dominated the beer making it pretty gross.
     
  14. tillmac62

    tillmac62 Pooh-Bah (2,859) Oct 2, 2013 South Carolina
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    No, not me. Just label it clearly.
     
  15. Blinkyoureyes

    Blinkyoureyes Initiate (0) Aug 28, 2015 Tennessee

    Dessert IPA's is what they are calling them.
    Milkshakes from Tired Hands
    My local brewery (Southern Grist) is doing Pineapple/Blueberry/Mango Upside Down Cake IPA

    I like them to try. Usually dont want more than one, but its creative and it pushes the limits. I can dig that.
     
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  16. patto1ro

    patto1ro Pooh-Bah (2,084) Apr 26, 2004 Netherlands
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    You forgot Porter vs Stout.
     
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  17. Squire

    Squire Grand Pooh-Bah (4,385) Jul 16, 2015 Mississippi
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    I actually paused mid sentence and read that description again. Thing is I know someone who might actually like that if it's not too bitter.
     
  18. Blinkyoureyes

    Blinkyoureyes Initiate (0) Aug 28, 2015 Tennessee

    So its either Blueberry Upside Down Cake, or Mango, or Pineapple.
    They also do a coconut IPA which is highly regarded, but i am not a big coconut fan.
     
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  19. Sir_Whats-his-face

    Sir_Whats-his-face Initiate (0) Mar 2, 2015 Oregon

    There are good adjunct IPAs and bad ones. Why limit oneself to just hops and malt? If you can get a cool new flavor with adjuncts, do it. I get not liking certain adjuncts, but what kind of crusty, lame old curmudgeon is against the concept of adjuncts?
     
  20. Squire

    Squire Grand Pooh-Bah (4,385) Jul 16, 2015 Mississippi
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    That's profiling to which we crusty curmudgeons object.
     
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