My NE IPA is too bitter.

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  1. machalel

    machalel Initiate (0) Jan 19, 2012 Australia

    oops misread... Well yeah... definitely going to be bitter then!
     
    #21 machalel, Jul 18, 2017
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  2. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    Since he hasn't sent me a bottle I can't say. :grinning:
     
    #22 SFACRKnight, Jul 18, 2017
  3. hoptualBrew

    hoptualBrew Initiate (0) May 29, 2011 Florida

    I have a feeling that this would be a different beer after a good cold crash. All that hop particulate in suspension into the bottle...
     
    #23 hoptualBrew, Jul 18, 2017
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  4. captaincoffee

    captaincoffee Pooh-Bah (2,218) Jul 10, 2011 Virginia
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    I'd agree with this ^^ as a potential culprit. I was surprised how much smoother my IPAs came in when I increased the distilled water component of my water profile. Not always what I want, but in the case of a NE IPA, it was.
     
    #24 captaincoffee, Jul 18, 2017
  5. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,647) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    Epsom Salts translated to German is Bittersalz. Too much magnesium tastes bitter. One thing to consider.

    I have made beers that have plenty of bitterness with additions just after flame out. These were usually cream Ales with 4oz of Mt. Hood/5 gallons, at about 5% AA. If you use more hops at flame out with AA>10 AA, you will get plenty of bitterness.
     
    #25 hopfenunmaltz, Jul 18, 2017
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  6. Havalina

    Havalina Initiate (0) Jan 25, 2017 Denmark

    Hehe i get the picture.

    I dont think im ready for water modifications but its clear to me that i need to do quite some things differently:

    So would 15 minutes at 167 Fahrenheit and cutting on the hops be the right way?
    or should this be even less? :slight_smile:

    Im using a fridge for fermentation(with a STC1000) whats my best bet concerning cold crashing? adding hops, wait 2 days, set temperature to the lowest possible and then keg my beer after 3 days?(hopefully that would be enough to make the beer cold enough to settle) :slight_smile:
     
    #26 Havalina, Jul 18, 2017
  7. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    Don't...especially for a NEIPA...keg/lager the beer and remove any trub/sludge with a picnic faucet after ~ a week or two...imho
     
    #27 GreenKrusty101, Jul 18, 2017
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  8. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    @Havalina just start your hopstand or whirlpool additions after chilling below 180 and see where that gets you. I usually use a big BIAB bag for my hop additions and pull it after my hop stand of 30 minutes. YMMV
     
    #28 SFACRKnight, Jul 18, 2017
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  9. Havalina

    Havalina Initiate (0) Jan 25, 2017 Denmark

    cool :-) i dont have a BIAB bag at hand...i have hop socks... but i guess the sock will limit the contact with the wort.
     
    #29 Havalina, Jul 18, 2017
  10. Acrebrewer

    Acrebrewer Initiate (0) Jul 10, 2017 Massachusetts

    Ive encountered the same problem in both of my Bissel brothers clones. The most recent Reciprocal. I used 2 oz each vic secret, stella and summer. One batch at 15 min and 1 batch at 140°F. No hop bsg for either. Then after getting my response from Noah Bissell i used 4 oz vic secret and 2 oz stella, i batch at 4 days primary no hop bag. Then the same amount in a hop bsg for 3 days after racking to dry hop bucket. Ive been cold crashing for 2.5 days, still slightly bitter. Will it go away? Really frustrated, i want a juice bomb. Not bitter.
     
    #30 Acrebrewer, Aug 13, 2017
  11. MLage

    MLage Initiate (0) Sep 5, 2016 Brazil

    Just did a NEIPA at the Grainfather. This time only whirlpool hops and dropped the temp to 150 before throwing the hops. Just a hint of bitterness.
     
    #31 MLage, Aug 14, 2017
  12. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    Wait til it gets carbonated and see if it goe s away.
     
    #32 SFACRKnight, Aug 14, 2017
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