Other Half Brewing July 2017

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  1. crowlcrowlcrowl

    crowlcrowlcrowl Savant (1,020) Jun 13, 2014 New York
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    Enigma is an expensive hop.
     
  2. dhaakon

    dhaakon Pundit (851) May 30, 2005 New York

    if no double batches then definitely a quick sellout. SMH just drop the limits to a half case each already.
     
  3. icfpny

    icfpny Initiate (0) Apr 3, 2015 New York

    Aaaaaand here we go.
     
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  4. Feaor

    Feaor Pundit (946) Jul 9, 2017 New York

    We should just add a greatest hits of complaints about limits to the first post of each month at this point :rofl:
     
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  5. icfpny

    icfpny Initiate (0) Apr 3, 2015 New York

    KILL ALL CASE BUYERS
     
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  6. SeanEDPBK

    SeanEDPBK Pundit (753) Jun 8, 2016 New York

    I'm with the complainants on this one, but I've just given up hope of getting cans most weekends because of these line shenanigans. I can always grab a growler or a pour of the beer being released, and with the exception of those potato-hype beers I always do.

    Instead I'm going to start bringing up the general lack of diversity of offerings as a new weekly complaint- not enough Belgian-style beers, brown ales, or lagers on offer!
     
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  7. dhaakon

    dhaakon Pundit (851) May 30, 2005 New York

    Im just going to go to singlecut next friday. interboro on thursday. see what greenpoint releases. potentially LIC as well. I mean I would love to pick up a mixed case of all 3 beers this weekend but i'm not waiting at 8am for 3 hours.

    but its just ridiculous that OH is the only brewery that is doing this currently. they will brew 6-700 cases and allow a 3 case take home per person. The demand is way higher than that. It's a slap in the face to locals and it's not what good local craft beer is about.
     
  8. NewmansOwn

    NewmansOwn Initiate (0) Jun 25, 2016 New York

    Time is a flat circle...
     
  9. dhaakon

    dhaakon Pundit (851) May 30, 2005 New York

    so whats up for next weeks release?
     
  10. state08

    state08 Crusader (416) Feb 4, 2016 New Jersey

    Both of Interboro's releases on Thursday have case limits. I'm sure they'd love to sell out of them Thursday night, but they won't because they don't have the same demand as Other Half. Sometimes people forget these are businesses people are running.

    The catering to locals argument really only makes sense as a business move. Businesses really owe nothing to people that just happen to live nearby where they make their product. They would really only need care as a marketing strategy to boost their sales. Though you could argue that Other Half owes something to their actual neighbors who put up with the lines.

    Products and experiences that are in high demand go to the people that are the most willing to sacrifice something in exchange, typically time or money. I understand that its frustrating to have something considered world class in your "backyard" and not have easy access to it, but if other people are willing to sacrifice more for a scare product, then frankly that person deserves it more.
     
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  11. dhaakon

    dhaakon Pundit (851) May 30, 2005 New York

    I don't think anyone here forgot. I'm not arguing that there is more demand for OH beer. If interboro had the same demand that OH did then they should drop the limits as well. OH is going to sell out their beer at 3 4packs per style as they are at 1 case per style. They could also send any excess cans to local craft beer stores who I'm sure would love to have access to it.

    Instead they sell it to single entities who plan to redistribute the beer to LA, Boston, Virginia or all over the country.

    From OH's about page:
    They want to talk the talk but not walk the walk. Their lines are a burden on their community. The parking, the drinking and the trash. But its OK since OH doesn't have the "space" for their cans.

    If they are in such high demand then why not just lower the limits? They are going to sell out regardless. If the demand is from traders and resellers then the case per style strategy makes sense. If it's to ensure that as many people get to try their beer as possible then I don't think it is.

    Again, no brewery has limits like this and OH is one of the most in demand breweries. 6 months ago I would have been OK with the limits but now the game is different and OH is playing into the reseller/trader crowd abandoning the people that got them there.
     
  12. bryantc3

    bryantc3 Initiate (0) Apr 12, 2017 New Jersey
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    Eh, i look at Kane in NJ. They announce a yearly release (apples to orange for OH IPA) ~2 hours before opening and still sell out same day at 6k bottles and 6 bottles p/p.

    OH has a wide reach, especially given the location. limits of each beer where you know that 1k people+ will get beer means that they'll still sell out. Because people who have other responsibilities and maybe only want 1-2 4pks to enjoy themselves will make the trip at 3pm.
     
  13. dhaakon

    dhaakon Pundit (851) May 30, 2005 New York

    ill stop talking bout it now. kinda beating a dead horse at the moment. i just hope the cloudwater collab is a double batch. love everything ive had from them.
     
  14. FrankenMiller

    FrankenMiller Savant (1,194) Mar 5, 2014 Florida
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    It seems like some of the people on here may know employees or the owners of OH. Why not ask them what they think about all of this.

    I bet they will say... We sell out of all the beer we have most days and I like to take all that CASH to the bank Saturday afternoon.
    If they average a selling price of $18 per 4pk./ 6 in a case =$108.00 x average run of 200 cases =$21,600 x 4 flavors a Saturday = $96,400.
    Until they are not putting almost a hundred grand in the bank every weekend you won't see any changes. $400k a month on just can releases will sustain a business. (even in NYC). Everything else--- Tap room sales, merch, Keg sales is all gravy. Good for OH
     
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  15. Kanger

    Kanger Initiate (0) Sep 3, 2013 New York

    I think I saw a few bottles left today. Not many though.
     
  16. dhaakon

    dhaakon Pundit (851) May 30, 2005 New York

    so much wrong with the “but hey look how much money theyre making!” theyre selling drugs to addicts. craft is not driven by greed and monetary success.
     
  17. troupos40

    troupos40 Initiate (0) Aug 12, 2014 New Jersey
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    I think the perfect situation is somewhere between the 4 case limit ot OH and the 11-14 can limit at Treehouse. Let's be honest Treehouse isn't excited to be open 4 days a week and have to process 10,000+ beer purchase transactions per week to sell out. And OH is probably at the opposite end by allowing only a few hundred people the ability to buy a ton of beer but only 1 day a week. But if I'm being honest, I'm not going out of my way for 12 cans of beer. I don't have time to run around getting beer every week, so anything less than a case is not worth the time, tolls, line, etc.

    I guess if you are local you want to be able to get a small amount of cans frequently. And if you are a "dirty out of towner" you want to get enough in 1 trip to make it worth while. Didn't think that this was so difficult to understand, but the last 3 pages of this thread have proved otherwise.
     
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  18. Davidsoul

    Davidsoul Initiate (0) Jan 8, 2013 New York

    So much salt. OH caters to the locals nearly every day of the week. Walk in there on any weeknight and it's all locals getting growlers and a pint. Nearly all their beers are on for growlers well after release and on tap around the city - even the biggest releases. Is it just that you desire cans on top of all this? The weekday can drops are also not good enough?

    Craft beer in 2017....
     
  19. dhaakon

    dhaakon Pundit (851) May 30, 2005 New York

    yes i'd like the ability to get some cans from my local craft brewery and expect them to do as other great local breweries do and have better limit ratios.

    a case is perfectly acceptable. But OH brews 600-700 cases a week, sometimes more. When they brew more of one style and have around 500-600 allotments, the cans last until the very latest... the next week.

    It's like if Tired Hands had a 2 case limit on their last Milkshake release. It would sell out instantly and the forums would be a mess. They would have had 181 allotments as opposed to 726. Tired hands always has beers on draft, they always have growlers to go.

    Ugh I said I was done but it's simple dhaakon math. Things have changed since the last OH/Trill/Monkish release.
     
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  20. NiceBeerCans

    NiceBeerCans Initiate (0) Mar 16, 2013 New York

    Ugh, please be done. You've made your point too many times. Take it offline. Even by dhaakon math, the number of these posts is too large. :rolling_eyes: You've eviscerated the poor horse...
     
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