NE IPAs in Ohio?

I came here to say this, so I'll second it.

 

But they are supposed to have a release party for it in a few weeks, I believe.

 

The release party has come and gone unless they are brewing another batch.

 

Yellow Springs is releasing cans of their new flagship IPA, Boat Show, which is NE style, on August 18th. Pretty solid brew.

 

A large chunk of that thread was about the Kentuckley release and other membership bottles.

 

They are having a can release party on August 27th, 11am-5pm, next door at 201 Morris.

 

Yes! The can release is on Sunday the 27th.

 

I can CLEARLY see that you love being a troll.

 

Just because you don't agree with me doesn't make me a troll. It simply makes you a little on the naive side. A little wet behind the ears, as it were.

 

Nah you're 100% just a troll. It is what it is. Plenty of your kind out there.

 

Guy asks for NEIPA's, and you come in posting about beers that go completely against what he asked for, and you knew that it would rile people up. Then, when people posted in reply to you, you try to be witty and smug. I mean, to me, that's pretty much the textbook definition of a troll: someone who stirs the pot for the sake of stirring the pot, and doing it only for the supposed lulz.

 

I know a lot of users like yourself have spent years fighting to water down the discussions on this site and I know you'd love to get my banned so you can go back to discussing what IPAs are available at Ollie's Place, but consider for a moment the damaging impact NEIPA has already had on the industry at the consumer level. (#icemanpour aside as that's a fringe group of some really special idiots).

I've seen many cases where, unable to distinguish NEIPA from IPA, people have been ready to totally write off a brewery because their IPAs weren't "up to their standards or taste". This is wholly unfair to the brewers who've taken care to produce IPAs that would have been highly regarded in a time before the sweetened juice slurries.

Furthermore most drinkers will only buy sweet, "juicy" IPAs. This is negatively impacting the depth of selection available to everyone else. Larger, national breweries are doing what they can to follow this trend by pumping out dozens of sub par IPAs with fruit extracts added.

Take Stone for an example. Why would they want to do something creative in the space the end of their Vertical Epic series or odd year Stout and OG has left when they could just add citrus flavoring to the several IPAs they already have and sell them all in no time?

This is big business too. Remember that Ballast Point began flavoring IPA and pales and subsequently was purchased for $1 billion. Now look at their portfolio, it looks like an off shoot of Welch's.


If you like your IPAs to no end and you think this isn't a big deal just keep in mind how we ended up with nothing but adjunct lagers for about 2 entire generations.

 

If you really think there will ever be a time you legitimately have a hard time finding a clean, west coast IPA, you're high.

 

That's not the issue, it's finding other styles. It's all fruit extract IPA and fruit extract kettle sours masquerading as Gose. What if I want a crisp summer beer that's neither of those two things? It's getting to be ALL IPA.

 

Craft beer should be about restoring the consumer's choice in what he/she has available to drink. So when breweries that are only know for IPA being called the best brewery in the world despite not showing any technical ability to brew any other styles craft beer is headed in the opposite direction of it's initial intent.

 

If you think that the classic West Coast IPA is dying off at the expense of hazy beers, you are legitimately the biggest troll I've ever met online.

Yes, hazy IPA's are a trendy thing right now, but truth is that they are trendy because they have brought a new facet to the style: Less bitterness. Many of these "juicy" IPA's have a far lower bitterness than their West Coast counterparts, and for some people, that is what makes them actually drinkable. Not everyone wants their enamel stripped off by 100+ IBU West Coast bombs. Some people like hops, but don't like the overbearing bitterness. You ever think of it that way? Of course not, because if an IPA isn't Blind Pig or OG Sculpin, it's garbage. And yes, these bigger breweries are pumping out flavored IPA's to try to keep up. But guess what? Their core beers are still there. Sculpin is still there. Stone IPA is still there. Torpedo is still there. People still buy these beers.

If your issue is with these breweries not brewing to style, I get it. You enjoy the dank, bitter, enamel stripping stuff like Hopsickle and Pliny. Good for you. Lots of people do. Eventually something else will take the place of NEIPA's in the same way they took the place of the Toppling Goliath and Hill Farmstead. Well made examples will stick around long after the NEIPA craze is over. How long has Torpedo or 60 Minute been around now?

Ollie's Place, by the way, is one of the best shops in this entire state, and they carry far more than just IPA's. Matter of fact, the last beer I bought from them wasn't an IPA at all, it was Night Method from Wolf's Ridge. But I guess you couldn't see that in my "watered down conversation".

Cheers.

Edit: Forgot one point. Adjunct lagers existed because there weren't breweries out there making anything out of the ordinary. No one was being creative, no one was pushing the envelope of beer. They just stayed in their lane and made that one style and made it well. And that's still the truth today. And guess what? People STILL buy those adjunct lagers.

 

I'm gonna assume you're either A: Not talking about Hoof this time, or B: You've never had one of their stouts...

And seriously, to insinuate you're at all limited in style choices when you go to buy beer.... totally insane.

 

You didn't get my point, until your last paragraph.

I'm not saying West coast IPAs are going away. I'm saying craft beer is becoming nothing but IPA. And the available examples are decreasing in quality.

As you say, brewers just stayed in their Lane and brewed mass market swill. IPA is the new fast lane.

 

I disagree. Places like Urban Artifact are doing sours extremely well. Figleaf makes the best cream ale I've had to date. Warped Wing makes a damn good oatmeal stout. IPA is the biggest style of beer in this country, and that'll never change. To say that NEIPA's are going to squeeze out every single other version of the style is asinine, and you know it is.

Edit: And to say that examples of IPA are decreasing in quality? That's asinine too. Iso-Trope from Figleaf is a fantastic example of a regular, boring IPA.

 

Lol. Not talking about Hoof. No one has ever called them the best brewery in the world and was serious about it.

And yeah, I've had a handful of stouts and dark beer from them. They were much worse than any hoppy beers they've attempted.