Other Half Brewing September 2017

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  1. BoardwalkBock

    BoardwalkBock Pooh-Bah (2,041) Aug 18, 2012 New York
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    It would be very rare for a beer to get oxidized only 4 days after canning. It takes a prolongued period of oxygen slowly leaking into an opening in a beer for oxidation to occur.
     
  2. pdy90727

    pdy90727 Initiate (0) Sep 10, 2016 New York

    I could easily be wrong, but oxidation can also occur during the brewing process right? At least, that's what I would tell myself when my home brew came out off . . .
     
  3. BoardwalkBock

    BoardwalkBock Pooh-Bah (2,041) Aug 18, 2012 New York
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    As far as I know, oxidation cannot occur during the brewing process especially since you're supposed to purge the beer with oxygen prior to pitching the yeast. However, if a beer is improperly sealed during fermentation, oxygen could get in and cause an off reaction. Having said that, the short duration from brew to can that OH has perfected and their efficient equipment puts the percentage very low that a beer could have oxidized during fermentation.
     
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  4. jkane101

    jkane101 Savant (1,161) Sep 22, 2007 New Jersey

    Unlikely for a pro brewery. If they doing it right the only time it should remotely hit any air is during packaging
     
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  5. jkane101

    jkane101 Savant (1,161) Sep 22, 2007 New Jersey

    That would only happen, possibly, at the beginning of fermentation stage before the yeast really takes off. Once it gets cooking there’s so much co2 being produced that any oxygen couldn’t realistically get to the now beer. Again not really a problem for the pros, they are good at keeping that wort/ beer insulated from open air
     
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  6. BoardwalkBock

    BoardwalkBock Pooh-Bah (2,041) Aug 18, 2012 New York
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    Exactly. Just think of an open fermentation wild ale. They dont oxidized even when exposed to the elements because the fermentation is producing extreme levels of CO2.
     
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  7. algebeeric_topology

    algebeeric_topology Pooh-Bah (2,052) Dec 30, 2014 Florida
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    I just cracked my second can from the last batch and it was still really muted. It doesn't taste flawed as per oxidized/etc, just a weaker batch. I didn't finish it though.
     
  8. ONovoMexicano

    ONovoMexicano Initiate (0) Jun 14, 2012 New Mexico

    I had read that the dry-hopping process offers an opportunity for oxidization, so that could be a culprit.
     
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  9. jkane101

    jkane101 Savant (1,161) Sep 22, 2007 New Jersey

    Oh crap I wasn’t even thinking about this part, yup I suppose this would definitely be an opportunity.
     
  10. jrnyc

    jrnyc Grand Pooh-Bah (3,012) Mar 21, 2010 New York
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    Was tap room crowded? If not, might have been worth asking a bartender or manager about difference in taste.
     
  11. rozzom

    rozzom Pooh-Bah (2,620) Jan 22, 2011 New York
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    I think the Simcoe thing is a little overblown. I bought a 4 pack. Yeah it wasn't quite up to the last batch, but I only know that because I'd had it before. If this was my first time I would have thought that it's a good, but not great OH beer (which can be said about a few of their (D)IPA offerings).

    Can't comment on Mylar because I haven't had it this time round - but appears on the face of it that that does warrant some questions
     
  12. rozzom

    rozzom Pooh-Bah (2,620) Jan 22, 2011 New York
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    I stopped by to pick up HS last night around 7:30. Wouldn't say it was chill, but by no means crowded.
     
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  13. llerrafnad

    llerrafnad Initiate (0) Apr 14, 2016 New York

    Maybe they used the water from the Gowanus Canal for DDH Mylar
     
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  14. SeanEDPBK

    SeanEDPBK Pundit (753) Jun 8, 2016 New York

    Yeah like @rozzom noted it wasn't crowded (I was there around 9, a few seats were empty at the bar). I didn't see any of the regular bartenders I knew though so had my tasters and bounced.
     
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  15. FrankenMiller

    FrankenMiller Savant (1,194) Mar 5, 2014 Florida
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    Paying $10 per spot for upwards of $60 worth of beer plus shipping ($19.00 in USPS box) really isn't that bad. Its a gamble you will win. $26 per 4pack it is actually cheaper than paying a mule cost plus $10 a 4pk and shipping. To each his own.
     
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  16. RutgersBeerGuy

    RutgersBeerGuy Savant (1,059) Jan 16, 2007 New Jersey


    No, it's not a good deal. You're paying $10. The beer + shipping is valued at $79 by your estimates. You have a 1/15 chance of winning. That means your expected value is about $5.27. In general, lotteries are only a good deal if the expected value is higher than the cost of entry.
     
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  17. rozzom

    rozzom Pooh-Bah (2,620) Jan 22, 2011 New York
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    This is only official if it's been double checked by @dhaakon

    @dhaakon do the numbers tie out?
     
  18. jrnyc

    jrnyc Grand Pooh-Bah (3,012) Mar 21, 2010 New York
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    l like your style!

    And this is never the case! The gazillion $ made by the casinos in Las Vegas has been made by the odds being on the house side. Same with state lotteries, the odds of winning the 3 digit daily number is 1000-1, but they only pay out $500. So, all things equal, the person who plays 1000 times pays $1000 to win $500! These slimy beer raffles are no different. I get the willies thinking how slimy I would feel if I entered one of these things.
     
  19. algebeeric_topology

    algebeeric_topology Pooh-Bah (2,052) Dec 30, 2014 Florida
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    Eventually state lottery values dip into positive expected value.

    At that point you're losing money by not playing.
     
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  20. RutgersBeerGuy

    RutgersBeerGuy Savant (1,059) Jan 16, 2007 New Jersey

    Yes! This is because the odds of winning the Powerball or other state lotteries are independent of the number of participants (and prize pool).
     
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