Priming sugar added to secondary

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  1. RandyRanderson

    RandyRanderson Initiate (0) Jun 24, 2014 Pennsylvania

    Need some advice from the fine folks in the homebrewing forums. Sunday I was bottling 5 gallons of porter and halfway through, my bottle caper broke (wouldn't seal and even cracked a bottle as we tried to make it work). LHBS wasn't open and with no alternatives to finish bottling, we sanitized the 6 gallon carboy and added the remaining beer (roughly half the batch) back for an impromptu secondary fermentation.

    Since we added the priming sugar to the bottling bucket before bottling, should I let the beer sit for a week or two to let the sugar ferment out or finish bottling tonight (Wednesday) now that I have a new caper?
     
  2. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    I would re-prime in several more days (a week total) and maybe add a little vitamin C (ascorbic acid) to scavenge any oxygen. Not an ideal situation, but doable.
    Others here may have different opinions.
     
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  3. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    Well, this is going to be a real crap shoot in two ways - how much carbonation to predict/expect if you add more sugar, and whether you will end up with oxidized beer because of the transfer. But it is what it is, so you're forced to go with an educated guess.

    I'd add in about half as much priming sugar in proportion to what amount you still have in remaining beer. Since you have half of the beer left then I'd add one-fourth of what your original sugar measurement was because probably after one day, half of the original sugar was consumed, thus one-half of one-half equals one-quarter of the original amount.

    Good luck.

    Oh, and as an experiment, I'd keep these remaining bottles separate from the first group to see what effect it has in comparison.
     
  4. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    I missed that part...good call
     
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  5. RandyRanderson

    RandyRanderson Initiate (0) Jun 24, 2014 Pennsylvania

    Thanks, I think this is what I'll do. Determining how much sugar to add was what concerned me, 1/4 of the original amount seems reasonable.

    Definitely will keep this batch separate in case it doesn't work out well.
     
  6. EvenMoreJesus

    EvenMoreJesus Initiate (0) Jun 8, 2017 Pennsylvania

    If it was me, I'd drink the bottles from the second bottling first, as they had a greater exposure to oxygen.
     
  7. RandyRanderson

    RandyRanderson Initiate (0) Jun 24, 2014 Pennsylvania

    Going to wait until Sunday to re-prime. Do you think the ascorbic acid is that necessary, also how much?
     
  8. RandyRanderson

    RandyRanderson Initiate (0) Jun 24, 2014 Pennsylvania

    That's a good point. I added some cold brew concentrate I made to that half as well so I was planning on drinking those first anyways.
     
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  9. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    Not really, but might make an interesting experiment with a control group...I've only added Vitamin C once and couldn't really tell if it helped...drink quickly :slight_smile:
    1/2 tsp/5 gal,,,or?
    http://www.brewerslair.com/index.php?p=brewhouse&d=additives&id=&v=&term=2
     
  10. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    If you are going to wait until Sunday to re-prime, a lot more (maybe all) of your original priming sugar is likely to be eaten by them, so I'd up the amount to about half of the original amount, i.e. back to the original proportion for the batch size.
     
  11. Bryan12345

    Bryan12345 Initiate (0) Mar 17, 2016 Texas

    That's what I would do. Cheers!
     
  12. Brewday

    Brewday Zealot (721) Dec 25, 2015 New York

    I snapped one of those blue capper's in half while in the same situation. Threw the beer in the fridge over night to halt the yeast and made sure i bought two red ones the next day. Everything worked out fine.
     
  13. RandyRanderson

    RandyRanderson Initiate (0) Jun 24, 2014 Pennsylvania

    Good point. I'll up it to half the original amount.
     
  14. RandyRanderson

    RandyRanderson Initiate (0) Jun 24, 2014 Pennsylvania

    Yep I got a red one off Amazon that feels much better. I'll upgrade to the bench caper eventually
     
  15. TheBeerery

    TheBeerery Initiate (0) May 2, 2016 Minnesota

    Ascorbic acid needs sulfur dioxide to be effective. If you add AA to a beer that doesn't have any it acts as a super oxidizer even in the presence of no oxygen contact, let alone one with some. I would hold off on adding anything and just be more careful next time. They do make commercial post fermentation antioxidants, but they will always contain some form of sulfites, as sulfite oxidation creates the necessary so2 (sulfur dioxide).
     
  16. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    You are thinking of wine. Not a chemist...but the H2O2 should not be a problem in most beers
    https://www.morebeer.com/products/ascorbic-acid.html
     
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  17. EvenMoreJesus

    EvenMoreJesus Initiate (0) Jun 8, 2017 Pennsylvania

    I can't tell if you are being serious or not.
     
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  18. TheBeerery

    TheBeerery Initiate (0) May 2, 2016 Minnesota

    Nope, having never made wine. I am not. :slight_smile:
     
  19. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    Yes, no smiley face : )
     
  20. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

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