Scale (Overall Opinion) Text for BA Scores

Blog Discussion in 'BeerAdvocate Talk' started by Todd, Oct 23, 2017.

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  1. Todd

    Todd Founder (13,518) Aug 23, 1996 Finland
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    Minor update, but based on recent feedback it's a major one for some.
    • Many of our users have the highly inflated A-F grading system in their heads, so the old score system (30-100) was easy for them to map over to a letter grade; even though it wasn't designed to be and inaccurate to do so as result.
    • By removing the 30-100 display layer and the associated range text (world-class, outstanding, very good, good, okay, poor, and awful), this left those not accustomed to a 1-5 scale lost.
    • We realized that most of the feedback wasn't solely because we got rid of the 30-100 scale, but rather that we got rid of the text, which many (far more than we realized) used as a quick reference to help make sense of the score.
    In a nutshell: We brought the scale (or overall opinion) text back, and slightly adjusted it for 1-5.

    You can learn more here: BeerAdvocate Ratings, Explained
     
    #1 Todd, Oct 23, 2017
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  2. Squire

    Squire Grand Pooh-Bah (4,385) Jul 16, 2015 Mississippi
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    Works for me.
     
    #2 Squire, Oct 23, 2017
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  3. hoptheology

    hoptheology Grand Pooh-Bah (5,379) May 12, 2014 South Dakota
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    I noticed the wording was brought back, I like that. But all of the changes every 2 weeks, man, making my head spin. :astonished:
     
    #3 hoptheology, Oct 23, 2017
  4. pat61

    pat61 Initiate (0) Dec 29, 2010 Minnesota

    I think its now OK and has been for a few weeks. The minor tweaks are no big deal. From the histogram you can tell how good the beer is. If you need a 1 to 100 scale instead of a 1 to 5 scale, divide the score by 5 and multiply by 100.
     
    #4 pat61, Oct 24, 2017
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  5. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    From the histogram you can also "eyeball" the level of agreement among raters.
     
    #5 drtth, Oct 24, 2017
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  6. dbrauneis

    dbrauneis Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,071) Dec 8, 2007 North Carolina
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    I rather like the fact that they listened to the feedback and adjusted (even though I have no horse in this race as it is fine either way in my opinion).
     
    #6 dbrauneis, Oct 24, 2017
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  7. dzan

    dzan Initiate (0) Aug 13, 2017 California

    Right on Todd.

    Thanks for listening.
     
    #7 dzan, Oct 26, 2017
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  8. Todd

    Todd Founder (13,518) Aug 23, 1996 Finland
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    As I mentioned in another thread, that simple math doesn't even come close to mapping over to the old score.
     
    #8 Todd, Oct 26, 2017
  9. pat61

    pat61 Initiate (0) Dec 29, 2010 Minnesota

    I agree it is simple and misses the complexities of the old score but for those fixated on a 1 to 100 score, it gives them a simple 1 to 100 score. My actual point was that what you have put together works fine.
     
    #9 pat61, Oct 26, 2017
  10. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,846) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    Since I don't look at scores, it really makes no difference to me, but, I think "Good" should 3.0-3.49. If we consider the average beer these days to be "Good", that descriptor should be more towards the middle of the range. It's a tiny nit to pick though.
     
    #10 BBThunderbolt, Oct 26, 2017
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