Warning Regarding Black Swaen Malt

Swaen's bag labeling is as follows:

Swaen = base malts and specialty malts such as Munich and Melanoidin
GoldSwaen = caramel (crystal) malts
WhiteSwaen = Wheat malts
GreenSwaen = Organic malts
BlackSwaen = Dark Roasted malts
PlatinumSwaen = Spelt malt

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I used their brown malt in a brown ale last year it it came out quite sweet.
Is it possible I added a
Bunch of unintended Crystal (hence the sweeter than expected result?)

 

Brown is in the GoldSwaen family, and is a roughly 83L crystal malt.

 

Yes, the only malt they call "brown" is a caramel malt.

I haven't used any of their malts. Maybe they are awesome. But some of their names are a huge fail.

 

Perhaps some of the blame lies with the re-packagers, wherein they are not specifying clearly the category classification of the malt, or they are not carrying over the Gold, Green, Black, etc... designators onto their smaller repackages.

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Well I guess I'm rebrewing that cigar
City Maduro brown clone again soon with the correct brown malt haha. Thanks! Only beer I've ever brewed that while still pretty good,
Was a bit too cloying

 

The Swaen is what their base malts are called. The Gold Swaen is their crystal malts. Black Swaen is their roasted/toasted malts. White Swaen is their wheat (red), I do find this one confusing, since they used to carry a white wheat.

This looks like it was labeled wrong. Right bag, wrong printed label. Sorry that happened on my advice. I do like the swaen malts.

Call the company who you bought the bag from you will need to initiate the return/refund through the retailer.

I can only imagine they will not want it back if it was shipped to you. I would ask for a little more than a refund since it screwed up two of your brews. They should send you a new bag of lt munich and give you a quarter to half your money back because of the wasted brews which is time which is money.

Judging by the color it looks like the Gold Swaen Brown which is an 80 l crystal. IS it starchy or glassy when broke in half?

 

I agree the names are confusing as all hell. White Swaen Classic Wheat is red wheat. How dumb.

But think of it like this....

You had to learn what Carafa was at one point in time. You will pick these names up because the malt is worth the effort.

 

I buy The Swaen because I live in Europe and never had the issue you have experienced.

I am inclined to believe your LHBS screwed up, as I never received grain sacks with that expiry date stamp, like you have on yours. That is not common, so somebody made a mistake.

Also, you should consider changing the title of the thread, as it is highly incorrect and clickbait-ish and has nothing to do with the reality of things. And nothing to do with the Black malt from that maltster.

You sent the email to your retailer more than 2 weeks ago.

May we know what the retailer said and how you are planning on closing this thread?

 

See the second post re:correcting the name.

The Swaen brand, including all the color designations, is pretty new to North American markets that I know and had I encountered Gold Swaen Munich Light prior to this thread I would have assumed it was a light munich base malt, not a crystal malt. I think there is a valuable message in this thread for others unfamiliar with the brand and there is nothing click-baitish about that.

 

Giving a caramel malt a name like Munich Light will result in a lot of pissed off consumers...in many countries/languages...bad marketing is bad marketing. The thread title really should be changed, but not because it is click-bait....the casual reader won't read it in context and realize the maltster isn't to blame so much as a douche bag front office puke that doesn't know anything about brewing beer, imho.

 

Perhaps a moderator can change Black to Gold in the subject line for this thread. Clearly we are discussing GoldSwaen here and not BlackSwaen.

 

I don't think the issue was the packaging (which LHBSs don't do anyway with whole sacks). The issue was naming a crystal malt "Munich Light." That's just a wholesale marketing fail, and the LHBS isn't responsible for that. This thread will probably keep some other customers from being tripped up by that.

May we know what prompted you to join BA yesterday and post just one message?

 

Did Weyermann make a mistake when they named their CaraMunich line of three caramel Munich malts then? I believe this to be where Swaen got the idea for their naming method for their caramel/crystal line of malts with likely similar caramel Munich characteristics. Only they are telling us it is a caramel/crystal malt by the use of the word 'Gold' instead of 'Cara'.

Weyermann CaraMunich = Caramel Munich
GoldSwaen Munich = Caramel Munich

Part of it may come down to how many variations of the name Caramunich Weyermann has trademarked or copyrighted. The EU's layer of governance may frown upon Swaen attempting to better identify their caramel Munich malts upon legal grounds. ???

 

I agree the name given by the company to that particular Crystal malt is rather confusing.

But it does not really change the fact that this page exists: http://theswaen.com/product/ourproducts-malt-for-beer:gold-swaen:munich-light-2/

Nevertheless, it is annoying to end up in a situation similar to this one.

 

I'd make a trip out for a beer trade and a few pounds! Could meet in Dayton?

 

Thought I would mention that I made a lager over the weekend and used 4 ounces (2.8% of the grist) of something called GoldSwaen Hell Caramel malt. I assumed it was like CaraHell and maybe it is. The color is 8°L but it really gave this gold lager a deep, rich color that I did not expect. Also, I have gone through a 55-lb sack of Swaen Pilsner malt (and I have another) and I like it. It made some great beers. I also went through a sack of Swaen Pale Ale Malt and I was not as impressed with it. It was a little flat and shallow-tasting.