WTF is an NEIPA?

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  1. hoppytobehere

    hoppytobehere Pooh-Bah (2,046) Aug 10, 2012 District of Columbia
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    Not a NE IPA
     
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  2. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    West coast breweries utilize a few different yeast strains. So do the neipa brewers. Yeast esters play a huge role in neipa, while the west coast versions lean towards clean yeast profiles and simple grain bills that let the hops stand out.
     
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  3. Minipork

    Minipork Zealot (628) Dec 11, 2010 Illinois
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    I have zero authority, but i dont think of heady as a neipa. it's too balanced and, at 75 ibu's are too high
    I spoke to everyone whoever said it. Everyone agreed you misinterpreted
     
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  4. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    Heady is the first hazy ipa I recall having. It also is far more balanced than west coast options, as are most NEIPA. It utilizes fruity hops more than west coast examples do, and has yeast esters, a full mouthfeel, and polyphenol haze. Not sure what else it could be. Noonan, Kimmich, Hill all kinda set the stage for breweries like tree house, trillium, odd13, weldwerks, tired hands etc.
     
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  5. Bitterbill

    Bitterbill Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,036) Sep 14, 2002 Wyoming
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    I remember drinking some Odell cask ales in Casper that were cloudy and fruit centric. I wonder if they were a rep of NEIPAs?
     
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  6. kool-aid

    kool-aid Initiate (0) Apr 3, 2017 Vermont

    Oh yeah, it's only the ladies who don't understand or like beer. Not the young college bros who are still developing palates for bitterness, or the AB drinkers who really want alcoholic ice-cold water....

    Come to Vermont, where the mix of drinkers is even across genders! There are just as many dudes that order Citizen Cider as ladies who want some Hill Farmstead. It's a beautiful thing.
     
  7. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    It's not sexist to say men seem to prefer bitterness more than women. I suspect your pubs look a lot like the ones here... disproportionately filled with white dudes.
     
  8. Minipork

    Minipork Zealot (628) Dec 11, 2010 Illinois
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    fine point

    edit: husband, boyfriend, secret 2nd husband, boyfriend on the side
     
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  9. kool-aid

    kool-aid Initiate (0) Apr 3, 2017 Vermont

    Not the ones I go to! Here I see families of all ages, women and men alike at pubs and breweries. Hell, just last week at Blackback, I struck up a conversation with a couple where the lady LOVED all IPAS and her man was all about the dark beers only.

    Maybe it has something to do with the pervasive VT coffee scene affecting people's palates? Because it's only on free wing sundays at a local sports pub that I usually see all men drinking.

    edit: and I visit all types of pubs all over the state. It's kind of a hobby to check out the small local bars around here, and I'm just as likely to see a farmer lady drinking a Fiddlehead as a businessman drinking Bud Light.
     
  10. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    I can say the same thing. However neck beards do seem to drink more ipa than any other demographic.
     
  11. kool-aid

    kool-aid Initiate (0) Apr 3, 2017 Vermont

    I don't know any personally, so I couldn't tell you anything about that :wink: Besides, it's hard to judge when all the local dudes of all ages grow beards for functional warmth in the winter here. Seriously, VT totally means winter beard+flannel+boots for life. It's kind of funny when guys shave for the summer and shed their hats/jackets and I don't recognize them at all.

    My experiences at trendy places have also shown a healthy mix of age and gender. Alchemist has all kinds of people all the time, and the last Foam IPA can release I attended was quite varied as well. Trillium two weeks ago had even more women than men! I guess it's just because I don't usually do the whole 'wait in line for rare beer' thing that I miss out on this mostly male phenomenon.
     
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  12. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Grand Pooh-Bah (3,242) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    I don't find New England IPAs balanced at all. Celebration Ale, with it's strong caramel malt backbone is balanced to my palate. New England IPAs are heavily fruit/citrus forward. For my palate at least, I can't pick up much malt character at all in them. Maybe with Heady Topper, which is a bit of an inbetween IPA.

    I assume there was no line at the Foam IPA can release? :wink:
     
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  13. kool-aid

    kool-aid Initiate (0) Apr 3, 2017 Vermont

    Not for me :wink: I sat outside and crocheted a hat and drank a beer and watched the sunset. Still left with cans. Win/win.
     
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  14. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    I think saying any ipa is balanced may be stretching the definition of balance, however I was alluding to the idea that neipa has more a yeast profile as well as more malt backbone than the west coast counterparts. Neither beer is really balanced.
     
  15. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Grand Pooh-Bah (3,242) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    I almost added this, because I completely agree, IPAs by definition are not "balanced".

    Considering the yeast does supposedly play a vital role in the flavor profile of a New England style IPA, I guess I could see considering that "balance". Even still, I just consider the style to be good, but fairly one-dimensional. It's also partly my fault for historically thinking of balance mostly between malt and hops (obviously many Belgian ales...etc. have balance and contribution from the yeast though).
     
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  16. deleted_user_950283

    deleted_user_950283 Initiate (0) Feb 25, 2015
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    well try living in Montana and you will change your tune
     
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  17. deleted_user_950283

    deleted_user_950283 Initiate (0) Feb 25, 2015
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    it says so on the can
     
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  18. kool-aid

    kool-aid Initiate (0) Apr 3, 2017 Vermont

    It's a debatable beer, though. I bought a (definitely overpriced) pack of this and it was indeed a NEIPA... although not a very good one. Cloudy with that gritty mouthfeel and powdery hop flavor. No cohesion, not juicy or easily drinkable. My opinion of Two Roads is still not favorable- no matter if the dude trained with important people and wrote a good book, the beer still isn't great. You can find a better version than this one, for sure.

    I tried another on draft out of curiosity and that one did not remotely resemble the cans or a NEIPA whatsoever. It was sweet, fruity, visibly clear and very malty (and tasted cheap). So I understand why others may disagree with the self-styled description.
     
  19. oldbean

    oldbean Initiate (0) Jun 30, 2005 Massachusetts

    Two Juicy is a NEIPA, it’s just not very good.
     
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  20. jageraholic

    jageraholic Pooh-Bah (1,632) Sep 16, 2009 Massachusetts
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    Yeah, give me my fruited sours anyday. That's real beer!
     
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