Bayernbiere Bought and Drunk

I find Rothaus horrid. Just shows you how people’s tastes differ.

 

I'll also choose helles over pils 99% of the time. I love both styles but every once in a while I crave that crisp hop bite from a pils that you just don't get in a helles.

I'm fortunate to have some great German-style pils made near me in NY & PA, but my favorite ones are either draught only or can be tricky to find in stores, so I'll be purchasing plenty of the Ayinger. I'd love to find it on tap somewhere to compare it to the bottle.

 

What was wrong with the Rothaus?

 

I have had Ayinger Pils several times but solely on draft; most recently last week at a bar in Philly. I have enjoyed drinking those beers.

I am personally disappointed that the Ayinger bottles imported to the US have no dates on them. No way of knowing how old they are.

Cheers!

 

Personally I find it very uuurrrrggghhhh. In a cheap pish kind of way. Odd I know given the fact that it receives plaudits but possibly it’s my mental make up of having the barriers up each time I try to like it that is holding me back? That or my palate is not acceptable to it?

 

Did you get old beer, or maybe it was handled poorly by distributor or retailer? I only ask because I think it's a fantastic beer, always a little on the sweet-ish side but balanced well with hops.

 

I’ve occasionally seen Rothaus in pubs in England, but l’ve never had one because I think it probably wouldn’t be in great condition.

As with most beers, it’s best fresh and close to the source.

 

I've seen Salvator (as well as a lot of other well known bavarian beeers) in Supermarkets and Getränkemärkte in northern and western germany for at least 15 years. And that's just when I started paying attention to it.

It's gotten worse over the years, that's for sure.
Anyway, I always found the distinction between Bock and Doppelbock a bit forced, given the very nature of rural bavarian beer culture

 

For what this is worth, my last beer for January 2018 (I'm participating in Dry January again) was the last Salvator from my Paulaner "Taste of Munich" mixed pack -- I'd forgotten how hazy the first 2 were until I poured this one. It's damn near as cloudy as the Weizen. Don't get it, still has a malty, Doppelbock character -- if not color, but it might as well be a Kellerbier.

Anyone else seeing cloudy Salvator?

 

A friend of mine gave me four 1/2L bottles of Salvator last year. It was probably as good as it has ever been to me. Granted, I've only had it going back 13'ish years, though. The crew that runs the Falling Rock in Denver swears the beer has been on the decline since the late 90's.
Either way, it has never been my favorite doppelbock. Yet that one last year had more depth and more going on than in previous years. Normally it's a pretty straight-ahead sweet/bready item. This one had some of the cocoa and molasses notes I like in Optimator and Korbinian. It was dark in color, still still definitely bright.

 

The 11.2 ouncers in the mixed pack were more the former than latter of your descriptions. Still tasty beers, but not my favorite Doppel either.

FWIW, I checked my Salvator review from 2008 and it sounds very much like the beers I had from the new mixed pack. Like the Falling Rock team, I have old memories of Salvator being different back in the mid-80s when I first tried it, but I could be jumbling it in with all of the other Doppels. One thing I know, it's always been clear!

 

I just had a quick browse at some of the earlier pages of this thread and it was a really interesting, informative read.

It’s always good to look back at old stuff and compare what was going on then to what’s happening now.

 

Tony, welcome back! I have always enjoyed your posts in the Germany forum!!

Prost!

Jack

 

Tony, it shouldn't matter which photo hosting site you use but: I use imgur and once the photo is loaded on that site I simply copy and paste into the BA post.

Yup, I do indeed remember and for most beer styles I too prefer a thicker mouthfeel. I recently brewed a batch of Robust Porter and I made a number of design choices to make that beer chewy.

Cheers!

 

some of my recent sessions.



Always glad to go back to this.To me the Jahrhundert defines a flawless Lager.



Franken Bräu has disappointed me plenty in the past, but the Schwarzbier was solid (just a bit thin)




There's not much to be said about any Schneider Beer.They own the style.




This was maybe the worst franconian Keller i've had thus far.

 

I live in Pomerania.
Salvator is a bit lighter for a Doppelbock.

I rarely pick it up cause i have better options available like Andechs,Celebrator,Stralsunder Traditionsbock.

 

A friend of mine (and fellow Schlenkerla lover) just sent this photo to me. This is the first time I've ever seen Schlenkerla in cans. He said they ship tankers to the US, can it in Connecticut, then distribute it. He purchased it at a shop in Northampton, MA and they only had the Helles available. Maybe best of all is that the 4-pack had a sticker with the date it was canned on. Anyone have any additional info on this? I would be over the moon if I found 4-pack cans of any Schlenkerla biers!

 

Hold on a second, since when is Schlenkerla Helles unfiltered?But hey, I would kill for any classic franconian brew in a can. But you never,ever see this in franconia. Don''t really know why though because,weirdly enough, those 5l metal keg-can-thingies are really common and kind of popular there..