Flower Power 12-Pack Cans

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  1. brewme

    brewme Grand Pooh-Bah (4,014) Mar 1, 2014 Massachusetts
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    Anyone help a brother figure out a way to decipher a canned-on date for these?
     
  2. HorseheadsHophead

    HorseheadsHophead Grand Pooh-Bah (3,732) Sep 15, 2014 Colorado
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    I wish I could tell you. I've been having trouble deciphering Ithaca's dating codes, too. Their four packs of 16 oz Flower Power cans don't have any date at all, and on their bottle necks I usually can't figure it out.
     
  3. 2Xmd

    2Xmd Initiate (0) Apr 19, 2013 New York

    Is there something on the 12 pack box? Maybe it’s not on the can. They used to use a best by date I believe.
     
  4. BltByKrmn

    BltByKrmn Maven (1,349) Jan 16, 2013 New York

    I stopped buying it years ago because I couldn't find any fresh.
     
  5. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    It's pretty sad - Flower Power once had one of the easiest to read date codes on the cases - they simply rubber stamped the bottling date in the bottom corner of one of the top flaps.
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    Granted, some complained since it was harder to determine on individual bottles or sixpacks (I think they were notching the labels at the time, maybe?), but it was (note- "was") a great beer at the time and one that got to NJ and was on the shelves within a week or 2. Probably bought a case every other month back then...

    It is also one of the very few beers of the "modern craft era" which I agree belongs in the "just not the same beer as it was" category.
     
  6. jonphisher

    jonphisher Grand Pooh-Bah (3,850) Aug 9, 2015 New Jersey
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    I remember a buddy bringing me a sic pack from the brewery 4-5 years ago and I still vividly remember how good it was. I haven’t had it in years now. I think we are just more spoiled with local fresher options these days.
     
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  7. IGaveYouPower

    IGaveYouPower Savant (1,070) Dec 2, 2010 New York
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    Gotta say I do not agree with this at all, and I think it's actually a perfect example of how beer drinkers' palates change over the years with all of the style changes the IPA has gone through.

    Think about IPAs when you started drinking: Flower Power, 60 Minute, Hop Devil, Finestkind, Southern Tier IPA, etc. Those were its competition, there were no New England IPAs, no milkshake IPAs, no sour IPAs, no cryo, no flaked oats or lactose, no nelson, galaxy, wataku, or hell even mosaic hops.

    It's been as drastic of a sea change as could have ever been possible, and a beer like Flower Power -- even when Chief was still brewing it -- just has trouble standing against its modern-age contemporaries.
     
  8. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    Well, maybe I should have bolded even more of statement, like this:grin::

    Nope. Mine were Ballantine IPA in the '70s, and then Anchor Liberty, Grant's and SN Celebration in the 80's. I did regularly drink a few of the above when they hit the market in the 1990s and after that... and still do.

    Hop Devil, in particular, became a regular "house beer" purchase starting in the late 1990s and, though I don't drink it as much as I once did, it tastes the same to me. Ditto for Liberty and SNCA. No "palate shift" - in part because, if anything, I drink more non-IPAs (mostly pilsners and other lower abv/ibu styles) than I did in the '90s and '00s.

    But, see, while I realize those are currently the "hot" beers much talked about on the forums, etc., _I_ don't regularly drink any of those "styles" or beers with those ingredients.. (Frankly, I'm not even sure what a New England IPA is :thinking_face: but I think you have to stand in line for them?)

    Nor, from what I've read from others posters in recent years, I am hardly alone in my opinion of the current version of Flower Power. Hey, while I probably seldom respond to them in the forums (other than with a mental :rolling_eyes: ), I also am vary wary of the many people who find fault with every new vintage of a seasonal or older brand (it's watery, it's dumbed down, ain't t'same...). That's why I qualified my statement.
     
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  9. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    JK, I am 100% with you here. I was a HUGE fan of Flower Power when it was brewed by Jeff O'Neill but when he left this specific brand never tasted the same (i.e., a decrease in flavor quality for my palate). I don't know whether there was a business decision to change how this beer was brewed after Jeff left or the new brewers couldn't replicate this beer or...

    Whatever the explanation this is a beer I no longer purchase.

    Cheers!
     
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  10. KingforaDay

    KingforaDay Pooh-Bah (2,445) Aug 5, 2010 New Jersey
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    Not sure what the arguments or confusion is on Flower Power tasting different from how it did years ago when Chief brewed it. They have changed the recipe several times over the years and Ithaca has confirmed this.
     
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  11. Kadonny

    Kadonny Pooh-Bah (2,616) Sep 5, 2007 Florida
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    Me too, I’m in complete agreement with JK and Jack. I just don’t buy it anymore. It definitely changed years ago and not for the better.
     
  12. brewme

    brewme Grand Pooh-Bah (4,014) Mar 1, 2014 Massachusetts
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    I emailed Ithaca through a form on their website...still awaiting a response...will update if/when I hear back. I got halfway through a Sam Adams Boston Lager at my in-laws the day after Christmas, before realizing it had a bottled-on date of 2014! So I am confident that I can get through these bad boys...even if it takes me 3 years...
     
  13. chefduff2

    chefduff2 Initiate (0) Feb 17, 2008 New York

    I would be impressed if you ever hear back. I’ll only drink it from the tap room and I live in Ithaca. I’m not sure what happens in packaging, but the product takes a turn for the worse once it hits the bottling line. I’ve tried some cans of FP and some have been horrible, some good. The last box of hop cans was alright, but still below what they have at the tap room.
     
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  14. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Have you ever had Flower Power on draft at someplace other than the taproom?

    Cheers!
     
  15. chefduff2

    chefduff2 Initiate (0) Feb 17, 2008 New York

    Yes, it’s ok, but not the same as straight form the brewery. Maybe it’s a freshness issue. I’ve taken visitors who have also been surprised.
     
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  16. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    But here is the thing: back in the day when Jeff O'Neill was the head brewer (e.g., 2010) the bottled Flower Power was excellent. I was an enthusiastic purchaser of those beers. Why do we in 2018 need to travel to Ithaca brewery to consume tasty Flower Power when just 8 years ago we could just go to our local beer stores and buy tasty bottled Flower Power?

    Have you noticed the same disparity of beer quality in other Ithaca beer brands (i.e., taproom vs. non-taproom)?

    Cheers!
     
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  17. chefduff2

    chefduff2 Initiate (0) Feb 17, 2008 New York

    Let me be clearer on that. FP is a shadow of its former self when brewed by Chief. They have strayed far in quality since then. I’m just saying the best tasting FP is at the source. I don’t seek Ithaca Beer out honestly when so many better options exsist on taps.
     
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  18. digdug1810

    digdug1810 Initiate (0) Mar 1, 2011 New Jersey

    man.... 2010 flower power.... loved that stuff.. i remember getting into craft stuff with shit like NN, FP, storm king etc etc... those were the days
     
  19. brewme

    brewme Grand Pooh-Bah (4,014) Mar 1, 2014 Massachusetts
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    Did get reply from Ithaca rep that there should be a canned-on date on bottom of can. I responded that there was not (there are random digits, but nothing that could be interpreted as a date code). I got a "I'll look into it". I did crack one - not great, not terrible.
     
  20. njcraftfan

    njcraftfan Zealot (708) Dec 18, 2016 New Jersey

    assuming you checked if it was Julian date coded?
     
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