Adjectives for lighter malt flavors

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  1. scurvy311

    scurvy311 Savant (1,135) Dec 3, 2005 Louisiana

    I’m taking the BJCP tasting exam soon and would like some suggestions on base malt flavor adjectives . The darker malts and roasted malts, for me at least, have pretty common and easy to identify flavor descriptors. I have fewer in my vocabulary for lighter malts such as those that fall between 2-row to light Munich. Beyond “biscuit” and “cracker” what are others that would be common for 2-row, pils, pale, Vienna, and Munich malt?
     
  2. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    This might help
    https://www.beeradvocate.com/community/threads/malt-flavor-descriptors.298649/

    You've probably seen something like this before
    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-UxYMo5wus...KzK08/s1600/CBW+Flavour+Wheel+Mark+Dredge.jpg

    You might be able to conjure up some subtle shades with categories -- you taste cereal -- was it Wheaties, Grape-nuts, or oatmeal, was that multi-grain bread or rye, etc. I suspect most of us do not have the sharp palate for doing this, but I could be wrong. I often wonder when people describe beers in nuanced detail whether they are really perceiving something or just fooling themselves or just looking for something to write about.

    Good luck on you exam.
     
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  3. dmtaylor

    dmtaylor Savant (1,149) Dec 30, 2003 Wisconsin

    Saltine, honey, dough, earth, bread, bread crust, light toast, dark toast, burnt toast, burnt crust, "malty without being sweet".
     
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  4. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    fresh cracker...stale cracker
    btw...too much melanoiden malt: grape soda

    Advice for bjcp tasting exam...if you run out of things to say, tell them what you do not taste.
     
  5. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    "Bright." I have no idea what that means, but I have a friend who describes almost everything that way.
     
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  6. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    Really? I see it a lot, and it is used interchangeably for clarity/clear. Maybe its a Michigan term.
     
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  7. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    That makes sense. But he uses it to describe flavor.
     
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  8. dmtaylor

    dmtaylor Savant (1,149) Dec 30, 2003 Wisconsin

  9. Silver_Is_Money

    Silver_Is_Money Devotee (337) Jun 4, 2017 Ohio

    Bready. The elusive flavor I'm chasing. Grab a 6-pack of Aldi's Wernesgrüner Pils and you will detect this elusive flavor. Delicious.
     
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  10. scottakelly

    scottakelly Maven (1,487) May 9, 2007 Ohio

    Have you tried the Wernesgruner Dark yet?
     
  11. donspublic

    donspublic Grand Pooh-Bah (3,552) Aug 4, 2014 Texas
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    Never really thought about that in beer, but in food what I commonly do is if something is just too fat ladden, I will "brighten" it up with a vinegar, cuts thru the fat and makes it taste "brighter".
     
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  12. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    Bright = opposite of dull or muddled, but usually used for appearance not flavor I would say
     
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  13. Silver_Is_Money

    Silver_Is_Money Devotee (337) Jun 4, 2017 Ohio

  14. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    Could it be more about an overall sensation of flavors really popping (define popping?) as opposed to being muted.
     
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  15. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    Like 'crisp'?
     
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  16. dmtaylor

    dmtaylor Savant (1,149) Dec 30, 2003 Wisconsin

    Hate "crisp". Ugh.....
     
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  17. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    Seems like the only time I see that word is when a pilsner or its little cousin, the light lager, is described.
     
  18. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,647) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
    Pooh-Bah

  19. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    Crisp to me means the perfect amount of carbonation, so that it dries out your mouth just enough to make you want sip it again. There's a taste component to carbonation, but I think of crisp more as mouthfeel. But this begins to take us into those nuanced and personal areas of flavor, where it becomes difficult to convey your own perceptions to others.
     
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  20. scottakelly

    scottakelly Maven (1,487) May 9, 2007 Ohio

    It's definitely worthy, though I like the pilsner better. My local Aldi just started carrying it a couple of weeks ago. Don't pass if you see it.
     
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