Controversial Beer Opinions Thread

You're free to feel this way, but I don't agree. I had a beer dinner for my birthday and it was a huge success. It took some planning ahead of time, but everything worked out beautifully. I will say that American wild ales (in my case, Casey and Black Project) go well with food and were a big part of the menu.

 

I don't think that's harsh at all. Sometimes as a parent you don't get to have time to do what you want because you need to do things with your kids. Other times you do. There, very truthfully, shouldn't be that much overlap with those two types of activities. You probably know that shouldn't get fucked up at your kid's soccer game, so why do you think that it's OK to bring your kid to a bar for hours on end?

 

I think you guys are saying the same thing.

Wine + food > beer + food, not that beer shouldn't ever be drank with food.

 

Your biases are showing.

There are times when wine + food > beer + food and other times when beer + food > wine + food.

 

Agreed.

There are also times when beer + wine + food > beer + food or wine + food.

 

- Beers don't belong in the shower.
- Boss pours are wack.
- Craft Beer Babes on social media that specifically use their sex appeal for likes and obvious free beer from the hazebro crowd.

 

I'm taking it that you don't like that.

 

It's all about cracking a cold one with the boys and respecting the hell out of women.

 

I don't have a problem with kids at bars and breweries. I have a problem with adults when there are kids at bars and breweries.

There's just something fundamentally wrong about exposing your kids to a situation in which adults - i.e., supposed role models - are drinking, talking about drinking, glorifying drinking, and 'fucking this' and 'fucking that,' right and left.

I was at Tree House a couple of years ago and there were two little kids lying on their bellies in the middle of the dirt parking lot building a fort out of crushed cigarette butts. There were possibly three hundred adults in the crowd and after maybe half an hour I still couldn't tell which ones were their parents. I could have scooped them up and sold them for beer money.

Get a baby sitter. Leave them with your in-laws. Do what I do and go to a brewery while they're in school and be home by three o'clock (doesn't work so well for bars, though).

Dogs I'm fine with.

 

For those of us who drink beer like beer rather than sip it as a surrogate wine,6% is a lot.Even after only 3 or 4 Imperial pints it is having an effect ,and who bothers to go to a pub to drink less than this?

 

This is more of a problem with our culture than anything else. In Europe a pub is not an "adults only den of iniquity". We don't expose our kids to the normal aspects of drinking and keep it taboo, meanwhile binge drinking and teen drinking is a bigger problem than ever.

What if your kids are too small to be in school? What if I have to work- at a job- instead of drinking at a brewery? What if you don't have in-laws in town? Babysitters are increasingly expensive and less reliable.

Your dogs you can leave at home. Your kids you can't. If you wont' give parents slack for occasionally bringing well behaved kids, dog owners don't deserve any either.

 

Agreed that exposing children to responsible drinking is a good thing.

I'm going to be a dick and say this slowly. Ready?

As . . . a . . . parent . . . you . . . don't . . . always . . . get . . . to . . . do . . . what . . . you . . . want . . . to . . . do . . . when . . . you . . . want . . . to . . . do . . . it.

Being a parent is hard work. Being a good parent is even more so. Like I said, if your kids and dogs are well-behaved, knock yourselves out. If not, then not so much. If they lose their minds after behaving for a while, someone needs to stop having fun and pay attention to them and/or remove them from the environment. Simple common courtesy. That's all. No more. No less.

 

I think 'setting priorities' was covered in the manual that came with your child.

Kids. Dogs. Not the same thing. Check the manual.

 

Kölsch,Hefeweizen and Alt are not ales.

Ale and lager are not good terms to categorize basically all beers.

Most people on this site don't get lagers.

 

If they're made with S. cerevisiae they are.

Do you have a better way to do it? Taxonomy would seem to be a good place to start as ales and lagers, in general, are fermented by two different species of saccharomyces.

Agreed.

 

13 minutes have passed without @EvenMoreJesus posting in this thread. I don’t know if that’s controversial but it marks a slow down.

 

That was some funny shit.

 

Is that even controversial? I'd wager it'd be more controversial to say that US craft's lasting contribution to world beer culture is super hoppy beer...and that's okay!

 

Rubbish. Ales and lagers (and beers) were well established before people even knew about yeast. The yeast strains are those which selected themselves under the brewing conditions.
Using S.Ceravisae does not create an ale any more than painting a door with yacht varnish creates a yacht.
The Germans set it down years ago, if a beer is lagered whether top or bottom fermented the result is a lager. Lager=store.
This is what I wrote about earler,beer writers perpetuating myths and half truths ,regurgitating the myths and half truths they have seen elsewhere