Non-Hazy IPAs That Get Hype?

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  1. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    Great non hazy IPAs, Headhunter, JuJu, Bodhi, Two Hearted Ale, Fresh Squeezed when super fresh. Any number of Buriel beers too, Jade, Pernicious, all a bit different but all are superb.
     
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  2. EvenMoreJesus

    EvenMoreJesus Initiate (0) Jun 8, 2017 Pennsylvania

    Curiously, do you understand why hazy beers are hazy?
     
  3. Domingo

    Domingo Grand Pooh-Bah (4,252) Apr 23, 2005 Colorado
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    To answer the question - not many. Melvin for sure. The Plinys still carry a lot of weight with casual beer fans. Maybe some of the finalists in the Alpha King challenge for those who know. That's pretty much it for "hype." That doesn't mean places like Comrade, Bosque, and La Cumbre aren't killing it, though. Right now haze is just really big. Give it time and you might see that change. It wasn't long ago when nearly every IPA was a deep red and packed to the gills with nothing but early addition Cascade, CTZ, and Chinook.
     
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  4. Ten_SeventySix_Brewhouse

    Ten_SeventySix_Brewhouse Zealot (744) Jul 20, 2016 Indiana

    I would agree that we all judge the book by its cover, but I personally still think grey, turbid, murky beer with no head looks gross, even if I know from experience that it is delicious. In my opinion, the best looking beer is one that is profoundly hazy with a nice light golden color and some head on top. Something that you can't read through, but still allows some light to pass through it.

    That, to me, conveys that it is full of flavor, but light, crisp, and balanced, with lively carbonation. That is opposed to murky beers, which I expect to be heavy, sweet, and lowly carbonated based on appearance alone. Actual experience may vary.
     
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  5. PorterPro125

    PorterPro125 Pooh-Bah (1,700) Jan 19, 2013 Canada (NB)

    English IPA's are traditionally more balanced and not as hop-forward as American IPA's. They are indeed distinct from Pale Ale's :stuck_out_tongue:
     
  6. bella1956

    bella1956 Initiate (0) Feb 19, 2018 Pennsylvania

    there's so many great beers out now, IPA or otherwise, that hype is getting very hard to come by. Unless a brewer makes a very limited amount. Even a lot of these massive barrel aged stouts aren't garnering the hype they once did a few years ago
     
  7. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Grand Pooh-Bah (3,242) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    Agreed. I don't think many of the New England style IPAs (from New England) look murky. I was referring more to this...

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  8. Ten_SeventySix_Brewhouse

    Ten_SeventySix_Brewhouse Zealot (744) Jul 20, 2016 Indiana

    I think very large percentages of unmalted grains, especially oats, tend to cause the murky appearance. In my understanding, the "classic" New England IPA brewers use unmalted adjuncts sparingly, if at all. Their abuse appears to be a way invented by other breweries later to make beers hazy (or murky) on purpose, rather than as a side effect of the process. Of course, they work well for getting a softer mouthfeel as well, so who's to say which way is "right"? As long as the turbidity isn't yeast in suspension, I think we can chalk it up to "different strokes."

    Personally, I think a bit of rye works best.
     
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  9. honkey

    honkey Maven (1,350) Aug 28, 2010 Arizona
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    That's pretty contrary to what I see in Arizona. Going up to Phoenix a couple weeks ago, I had so many people that I'd never met coming up to me and talking about how they follow delivery trucks to get our beer. We send 375ish cases on a truck each time we can, which is generally every two weeks. I know Arizona Wilderness had a long line outside their door two weeks ago, Wren House had a big crowd for a release the week before that, and Pueblo Vida seems to always be out of cans the day of release. I'm sure there's others, but I'm a bit isolated in southern AZ.
     
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  10. EvenMoreJesus

    EvenMoreJesus Initiate (0) Jun 8, 2017 Pennsylvania

    Although this is true for people that actually know beer, the hype-train is still a very real thing for a decent amount of people.
     
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  11. EvenMoreJesus

    EvenMoreJesus Initiate (0) Jun 8, 2017 Pennsylvania

    That is . . . umm . . . photoshopped. It actually looks more like this:

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  12. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Grand Pooh-Bah (3,242) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    How about these?

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  13. bella1956

    bella1956 Initiate (0) Feb 19, 2018 Pennsylvania

    I guess I'm just jaded and would rather drink something that I don't have to spend a days worth of wages on a beer
     
  14. EvenMoreJesus

    EvenMoreJesus Initiate (0) Jun 8, 2017 Pennsylvania

    That's not jaded. That's smart. Lots of great beer out there that you don't have to wait on queue for OR take out a second mortgage to afford OR hire a homeless dude in another city to mule beer for you.
     
  15. SpruceFish

    SpruceFish Initiate (0) Jan 18, 2009 Washington

    Have none of you heard of PLINEY?!?!?!?
     
  16. bella1956

    bella1956 Initiate (0) Feb 19, 2018 Pennsylvania

    Your right . Most of the beers that I looked for and anticipated with massive hype when I was younger never met their goal even though they were world class beers
    we all have heard of pliny the elder and younger and even those beers don't hype me up like they used to
     
  17. honkey

    honkey Maven (1,350) Aug 28, 2010 Arizona
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    It’s not new. I haven’t been to the brewery, but is it still hyped locally? My impression is that most people now respect Pliny and enjoy it, but don’t get excited about it the way we all used to 10 years ago.
     
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  18. EvenMoreJesus

    EvenMoreJesus Initiate (0) Jun 8, 2017 Pennsylvania

    I'm thinking, or at least hoping, that he was joking.
     
  19. Domingo

    Domingo Grand Pooh-Bah (4,252) Apr 23, 2005 Colorado
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    The Pliny beers have a lot of buzz among casual drinkers. Kind of like "that monk beer from Belgium" does. That doesn't necessarily come across on beer sites or forums like this and I don't know if I'd call it hype. It's more like infiltration of mainstream society.
     
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  20. Ten_SeventySix_Brewhouse

    Ten_SeventySix_Brewhouse Zealot (744) Jul 20, 2016 Indiana

    I don't know what its like at the brewery in Santa Rosa, but I overheard an employee at Bottlecraft in San Diego say PtE sells out usually in about an hour of them receiving the shipment. That's at $7-8 per pint-sized bottle, limit one per person. Maybe that's a product of the small supply rather than truly high demand, but it seems like it's still pretty hyped. I also had it on tap at Pizza Port, and they served it in a special Russian River glass. Seems like an odd thing to do for a beer that doesn't get hype.

    But I agree, it definitely doesn't get talked about as much on these forums anymore. Maybe it is average Joes catching on a little late.
     
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