Founders announces Solid Gold Lager

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  1. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    That works out good for you then - 'cause Founders isn't "Craft" according to the Brewers Association.
     
  2. eldoctorador

    eldoctorador Pooh-Bah (2,096) Dec 12, 2014 Chile
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    *I should have just said non-BMC, Corona-like imports, etc
     
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  3. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,132) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    I think I get your point, but it’s difficult to look at everything in such a black and white way. Founders is partially owned by a company that some would call the “BMC” of Spain (to use your term), and this certainly has an impact on their sales.
     
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  4. joelwlcx

    joelwlcx Initiate (0) Apr 23, 2007 Minnesota

    I'm surprised that no one brought up Minnesota Gold and/or Minnesota Gold Light at all in this entire thread... Those beers immediately came to mind when considering the "cheap yellow lager beer from a craft brewery".

    This isn't new at all- craft breweries creating paler, and paler, lager beers; The trend started a few years ago with pilsner beers and the like, and then a number of "Mexican-style" lager beers popped out of nowhere. Umm... Surly 'Merica, anyone? Hell, some brewers are using corn, of all unholy things (fucking A, I like corn in my beer. In fact, I like it better than rice...), in their "Classic American Pilsners".

    This beer coming from Founders is simply the logical outcome of all this. AAL's don't sell because they're cheap. They're cheap because they sell. And the grand majority of beers drinkers enjoy AAL's- even those that drink Founders' beer do too.

    Long story short: The market demands a well-made, tasty, fizzy, yellow barley/corn pop from a regional brewery, and one that doesn't cost $15-20 a 12 pack. Brewers will either adapt and supply, or die out over time.

    Speaking of regional breweries... I guess Grain Belt is kind of in it's own class, as far as AAL's made by craft breweries go?
     
  5. HorseheadsHophead

    HorseheadsHophead Grand Pooh-Bah (3,732) Sep 15, 2014 Colorado
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    I can't wait to give this a try, as I, too, have recently and strangely become wistful for the mindset of your average beer drinker. I've been weirdly jealous of your average blue collar worker who comes home and crushes a six pack of ice cold cheap swill from the can and doesn't think about it. It feels so hypocritical of me, as at the same time my collection of expensive NEIPAs and fancy glassware grows. My only stipulations are that I demand that my cheap crushable swill still taste decent and be made with integrity from ethical people. Maybe, hopefully, Solid Gold will become that beer.
     
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  6. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    Quite a few AAL's brewed by what the B.A. considers "craft" brewers: Schell's own Deer Brand, Utica Club Pilsener, Yuengling Premium, Straub Lager, Point Special, Shiner Premium, and contract-brewed brands like Narragansett Lager as well Iron City, Stoney's and the others coming out of City's Latrobe and other contract breweries. Also, Minhas is considered "craft", so all their AAL's, as well. I take it some of the new brands coming out of Cold Spring are AAL's, too.

    For that matter, while no one talks about it, American-owned Pabst and their 2 dozen or so brands, mostly AAL's, now sell under the B.A.'s "6 million barrels of beer or less" Craft Brewer definition, so they're no different from a Narragansett - contract-brewed AAL brewed by a non-craft brewer.

    Unless you mean Grain Belt is in its "own class" due to its superiority, in which case I don't know - I don't think I've had one since it was a Heileman brand :grin: - but I trust Schell knows what they're doing.
     
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  7. scottakelly

    scottakelly Maven (1,487) May 9, 2007 Ohio

    I picked up a 15 pack of this this weekend, without actually having heard of the release beforehand. $12.99 for a 15 pack in Northern KY, plus being a lager lover this was a no-brainer.

    This is a very good beer, especially compared to the typical BMC. At this price point and this quality I think Founder's hit a home run. It will be interesting to see how sales end up, as I see this beer appealing to both the craft lager crowd and the adventurous BMC drinker.
     
  8. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Have you had Hamm's? If so, how would you compare these two beers?

    Cheers!
     
  9. scottakelly

    scottakelly Maven (1,487) May 9, 2007 Ohio

    I have had Hamm's. Hamm's to me is very similar to PBR, just a little "smoother" and maybe a slight bit more hop character. Founder's is more malty and has a much stronger hop character.
     
  10. LADEDA

    LADEDA Initiate (0) Jul 29, 2014 Florida

    TW Orlando/Colonial shows in stock at $19.99/15. Sorry, too high for a 4% AAL.
     
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  11. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    I have yet to see 15-packs at my local beer retailers but I suspect that what you are communicating here will resonate with others. If Founders does not make this beer cost competitive with other available AALs there will likely be diminished sales. I previously posted a comparison of a Hamm's 30 pack being less than 15 bucks at my local beer store.

    Cheers!
     
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  12. Prep8611

    Prep8611 Savant (1,208) Aug 22, 2014 New Jersey

    There 15 packs in my area are usually 16-18 dollars depending on where they are at. That's a solid deal in my book. Not hamms level cheap but I'll be trying it out.
     
  13. anfield86

    anfield86 Pooh-Bah (2,606) Nov 21, 2006 New Jersey
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    I doubt it'll replace Narragansett for me. Fairly high quality AAL for $15 a 30 pack is pretty hard to beat. I'll certainly give it a try though.
     
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  14. i_run_far

    i_run_far Initiate (0) Aug 11, 2016 District of Columbia

    $7.99/sixers here, may give it a try but unless it's significantly better than other AAL options it'll be a one time purchase for me.
     
  15. LADEDA

    LADEDA Initiate (0) Jul 29, 2014 Florida

    Now yer talkin'. At the same time as the $20 AAL is being offered, Founders PC Pils is selling $2 less for 15. How can that figure?
     
  16. hillind

    hillind Savant (1,007) Apr 24, 2010 Pennsylvania

    $14.99 at Wegmans in Dickson City, PA.
     
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  17. i_run_far

    i_run_far Initiate (0) Aug 11, 2016 District of Columbia

    Is the PC Pils from 2017? If so, maybe discounted since it's like a year old.
     
  18. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    So, basically the Founders Lager is around a buck a beer vs. Hamm's at less than 50 cents a beer.

    I suppose we will have to see how the market responds here.

    Cheers!

    @Giantspace
     
  19. deleted_user_995920

    deleted_user_995920 Initiate (0) Jun 4, 2015

    My fridge is stocked with Crisp. The best pilsner type ever!
     
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  20. Jaycase

    Jaycase Grand Pooh-Bah (3,858) Jan 13, 2007 Illinois
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    For a Chicagoland price check, Binny's has 15 pks priced @ 13.99. 7.99 for a sixer.
     
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