Great Notion

Because GN and MTs are there and they're on the same level as Veil and Aslin. Never can have too much haze.

 

Like I said - if you really want somebody to start listing other breweries (even Portland ones!), feel free to go there and ask instead of asking here in Great Notion's thread.

 

Still waiting for you to provide suggestions of quality haze on the same level as GN or MT. I will await your reply in the PNW hazy all the same thread which says a lot about this discussion in itself. Shouldn't be hard to list a bunch off the top of your dome seeming as though there are so many options in Portland.

 

Point made. But I don’t think many people want to expend effort to make suggestions for you to tell us why they don’t fit your qualifications of accessibility and/or QUALITY. We don’t have to prove anything to you; drink what you like and try to stay positive in our regional forum. Cheers!

 

Kinda like how your patronizing the PNW?

The bars you're a regular at must love hearing about your dangerous excursion through Portland's needle-ridden tent cities.

 

Can you all keep it down? I can hear you through my tent flap.

 

So by your own admission your impression of the VA beer scene was to drive 60 mins to a suburban Whole Foods and drink what they had on tap? Which btw is mostly mediocre with sometimes a couple of ringers thrown in, nothing rare or unusual. And that somehow gives you enough of a picture to proclaim the whole state beer scene "mediocre?"

Instead of doing that, I suggest you go to each of these places, all within 60 mins of Front Royal, none of them in the evil DC.

Aslin (for cans of beer as good as anything in Oregon)
Ocelot (for great (gasp) West Coast IPA's)
Pen Druid (for great funky wild ales)
Lost Rhino (their flagship beers that you'll get at Whole Foods are meh but their barrel aged stouts and sours are on point)
Crooked Run (they do everything solid and have some great Mexican food to boot)
Solace (up and coming place, nice space, solid ipa's)
Adroit Theory (lots and lots of barrel aged stuff)

Thank you for your time..

 

Perhaps it should be hazy beers available in Portland? Which would seem appropriate as Veil and Aslin aren't located in the same city either. My $0.02.

 

I love how hazy IPAs are somehow a barometer of a scene. I think the style is inferior to many Pilsner style lagers, well done acid beers, anddddddd West Coast IPA. Fight me, right?

 

exactly. I enjoy them from time to time, but they probably dont even crack my top 10 as far as beer styles are concernced

 

Is it hard to get GN crowlers now? Seems like just last month you could go there after work and pick some up no problems.

 

I went to six places on this trip (GN, MT, HOTD, Upright, de Garde, and Baerlic. I've also been to places in Hood River on a previous visit three years ago) I think that gives me a better barometer of the PDX/OR beer scene than you going to a Whole Foods in the Northern VA suburbs and proclaiming the beer scene for the whole state "mediocre". Sure, you've been to Richmond, but when? And have you been to anywhere in Loudoun or Fairfax Counties other than Whole Foods?

That's why I suggested the breweries I did. It's not unrealistic to visit those I mentioned, even over the course of one afternoon. I have. Five of them (Ocelot, Solace, Crooked Run, Lost Rhino and Adroit Theory) are all in the same county, and a sixth (Aslin) is in a town adjacent to that county. Just limit your intake or bring a driver.


And not, it's not fair to compare Corvalis or Eugene, both home of major universities, to Winchester or Front Royal, both home of hicks. It's more accurate to compare Corvalis or Eugene to Charlottesville or Richmond.

And for the record, I don't believe I ever commented on the "beer scene" of PDX or OR. I stated that I felt fortunate that I can drive to a couple of places and get a world-class hazy IPA in a can to go. I don't think anybody has provided an example of that being the case in PDX, at least not ones pulling beer ratings comparable to the Veil or Aslin. You're the one who took what I said and extrapolated it onto some kind of full on comparison of two state's beer scenes.

 

Dude, has you never been to HardCoreVallis? No way it compares to Richmond or Charlottesville. Hell, it doesn't even compare to Blacksburg. Radford or Salem, maybe. I promise you there are plenty of hicks in Corvallis, and Eugene too.

 

I don't disagree with you.

But in case this was in any way directed toward me...my wife's favorite styles are hazy IPA's and sours. I went on a business trip alone, so was hoping to bring her back some local examples of her favorite styles.

I failed on the hazy IPA front, but did manage to bring her back plenty of Russian River sours. So there's that.

 

Yeah, those turd it up on the shelves sometimes. Price point is steep, local alternatives are available.

Yeah, I was generally referring to you. I’d say the majority of folks contributing on the PNW forum understand what a “world-class hazy” is. We don’t care to compare with the rest of the world. We don’t rate beers in the region, what’s the point? Most hazys are off balanced (too sweet) and/or astringent af. I’d give most entrants 3.5/5 or lower, and would immediately be deemed a “hater”. Even some of the world class ones I don’t really like! It’s boring after a while. Same brew recipe, different hops.

 

arguing over cities is PEAK internet. well done gents