Looking For Help With a Pale Ale Home Brew.

Discussion in 'Homebrewing' started by TealTokterFest, Apr 15, 2018.

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  1. TealTokterFest

    TealTokterFest Initiate (0) Apr 15, 2018 Ohio

    Some background info: My favorite beers with what little experience I have are Burning River, Oktoberfest Dortmunder, Edmund Fitz and Blackout Stout in that order all by Great Lakes Ohio so I've been spoiled.

    Recently bought an Arrogant Bastard Ale and as I thought it would be it does have a creamy quality to it and a nice dark brown hue and enormous head.

    Also considering trying Columbus Experimental Ale or Pale Ale, I can't remember which.

    In short, I want to make a homebrew of something that equates to a 20 oz with 7-8 alcohol content. I am just learning that the level of hops is what determines the bitterness of beer so now I'm curious as to what the malt does specifically to the flavor, given Porters and Stouts obviously have much much more malt then other beers.

    I don't do IPAs, they feel like soda in my mouth and tongue and give me a headache within 15 minutes of drinking about half of one.

    Edit: Burning River has an IBU of 45, so that's about the range I want to deal with.

    https://www.greatlakesbrewing.com/burning-river
     
  2. Prep8611

    Prep8611 Savant (1,208) Aug 22, 2014 New Jersey

    Have you ever home brewed before? I would start by reading a homebrewing book and watching some YouTube videos. Your post is honestly all over the place and I'm not sure what type of beer you want to make besides not an IPA and that you want it to be 7-8%
     
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  3. TealTokterFest

    TealTokterFest Initiate (0) Apr 15, 2018 Ohio

    Just a Pale Ale, I got a little over zealous, also 45 IBUs
     
  4. Prep8611

    Prep8611 Savant (1,208) Aug 22, 2014 New Jersey

    Have you ever brewed before?
    Are you doing extract, partial, or all grain? How many gallons do you make at a time?
     
  5. TealTokterFest

    TealTokterFest Initiate (0) Apr 15, 2018 Ohio

    I've never brewed, I'm just learning what Wort and top and bottom fermentation is.
     
  6. Prep8611

    Prep8611 Savant (1,208) Aug 22, 2014 New Jersey

    I would start by reading "How to Brew" by John Palmer or "The Complete Joy of Homebrewing" by Charlie Papazian and than taking your time and do a kit to start. They have pale ale kits that will be good and not as complicated as formulating your own recipe to start.
     
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  7. TealTokterFest

    TealTokterFest Initiate (0) Apr 15, 2018 Ohio

    Thanks a bunch man.
     
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  8. Prep8611

    Prep8611 Savant (1,208) Aug 22, 2014 New Jersey

    Anytime. Come back and let us know how your first beer turned out and most importantly... have fun!
     
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  9. TealTokterFest

    TealTokterFest Initiate (0) Apr 15, 2018 Ohio

    So now my brew idea is Dunkle Dale, as a joke, but it won't likely be a Dunkel since it probably wont be dark (I think.)

    I'm thinking of calling it a Dale as in a Dark Ale. Basically I'm looking to optimize both malt and hops to be make a powerful yet not overpowering beer that kicks you in the throat and also the tongue front and back.

    I'm sure this type of beer has already happened. I saw something called Helles or Hell possibly?

    The IBU is 40-45 and the image of what it may look like according to Beersmith makes it appear like a standard Ale.

    It has Maris Otter Pale Malt, 2 Row Brewers (Breiss) Malt, Caramel Crystal Malt 40 and 60, Northern Brewer Hops and Cascade Hops.

    In short, my goal is to make an American Pale Ale that has a more potent malt then most APAs have, just because it will be fun. :beers:
     
  10. EvenMoreJesus

    EvenMoreJesus Initiate (0) Jun 8, 2017 Pennsylvania

    So . . . you're looking to make a pale ale from the early 2000s. Cool. Let us know how it turns out.
     
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  11. TealTokterFest

    TealTokterFest Initiate (0) Apr 15, 2018 Ohio

    Will do, what Pale Ales were popular back then? Could sure help me out.

    Likely Sierra Nevada?

    Scratch that^

    What Pale Ales have an IBU of 45
     
  12. EvenMoreJesus

    EvenMoreJesus Initiate (0) Jun 8, 2017 Pennsylvania

    Your edit beat me to it. SNPA would be a great beer to emulate.
     
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  13. TealTokterFest

    TealTokterFest Initiate (0) Apr 15, 2018 Ohio

    I double ninjaed you with the IBU question haha.
     
  14. minderbender

    minderbender Initiate (0) Jan 18, 2009 New York

    @TealTokterFest I don't know how new you are to brewing, but it's common for people to publish "clone recipes" of popular beers. Those recipes should indicate the basic parameters like original gravity, final gravity, IBUs, and so forth. So that's probably your best bet if you're trying to identify beers that you want to emulate.

    [Edited to add: and specifically you can just google "[name of beer] clone recipe" and you will likely find some useful results.]

    [Update: here you go.]
     
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  15. EvenMoreJesus

    EvenMoreJesus Initiate (0) Jun 8, 2017 Pennsylvania

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  16. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
    Pooh-Bah

    Most of them, give or take a few IBUs.
     
  17. MrOH

    MrOH Grand Pooh-Bah (3,995) Jul 5, 2010 Virginia
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    Dude, read howtobrew.com , look up the cost of equipment, think about how you'll process things in you're space, re-read howtobrew.com, and then get back.
     
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  18. wspscott

    wspscott Pooh-Bah (1,958) May 25, 2006 Kentucky
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