Goose Island...Craft Beer??

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  1. harrylee773

    harrylee773 Initiate (0) Aug 8, 2010 Illinois

    If it's not craft beer, then I guess I'm not a craft beer drinker :shrug: I was excited to hear about the InBev deal and the return of Nut Brown Ale only increased that excitement- more good beer is good, imho, craft or otherwise.
     
  2. bifrost17

    bifrost17 Initiate (0) Dec 16, 2011 Washington

    good beer is GOOD, craft, macro, micro, WHATEVER, if coors made awesome beer I would buy it, but the do not, so I don't, lets just hope that goose island continues to produce theses quality brews
     
  3. yamar68

    yamar68 Initiate (0) Apr 1, 2011 Minnesota

    Does the title 'craft' or 'micro' somehow change the beer? No. Who cares... assess the beer for what it is.
     
  4. HopTaco

    HopTaco Aspirant (258) Mar 4, 2010 South Carolina

    I think 'craft' originated as an imagery word like, "Artisan" (Care for an "artisan french baguette" or a "slice of white bread"?) and once incorporated by enough firms became adopted to use as a distinction. The issue of defining has been around ever since.

    In my opinion GI makes damn good beer. And the recipe didn't change magically overnight last March 28. Same as it didn't skip a beat when they entered the AB distribution arrangement in 2006. In fact since then we've seen BCCS, Rare, Sophie, Pere Jaques, Pepe Nero, etc. I will judge by their actions: the day my fresh 312 tastes like some AB swill I will cease to purchase. Until then...
     
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  5. decadance

    decadance Pundit (759) Mar 14, 2010 Texas

    These are the same people that don't know a pint is 16 #@%#^#$@ ozs.
     
  6. nesarebad

    nesarebad Pooh-Bah (1,868) Feb 4, 2012 Massachusetts
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    Are you, anal?
     
  7. Arbitrator

    Arbitrator Pooh-Bah (1,967) Nov 26, 2008 California
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    It's going to blow your mind when you learn how they define the meter.
     
  8. Blanco

    Blanco Savant (1,243) Oct 11, 2008 Pennsylvania

    It'd be an insult to the brewers at GI to say it's not craft just because ownership changed.
     
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  9. Etan

    Etan Initiate (0) Jul 11, 2011 Wisconsin

    The only reason we value a brewery for being "micro" or "craft" is because these breweries tend to make better beers than the larger ones. But that's not to say there aren't large breweries that don't make good beer. Goose Island is one of those, and deserves to be grouped with all the great smaller breweries around. Basically, valuing "craft" is instrumental to valuing good beer.
     
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  10. nesarebad

    nesarebad Pooh-Bah (1,868) Feb 4, 2012 Massachusetts
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    I am not so sure that is completely true, I am sure you would find a good amount of people who adhere to an anti big business mantra...
     
  11. Etan

    Etan Initiate (0) Jul 11, 2011 Wisconsin

    Ok, then change "we" to "I" :wink:
     
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  12. nesarebad

    nesarebad Pooh-Bah (1,868) Feb 4, 2012 Massachusetts
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    Here here :stuck_out_tongue:
     
  13. WYVYRN527

    WYVYRN527 Initiate (0) Jan 8, 2007 Minnesota

    Goose Island makes a lot of beer. I don't care what it is categorized as. They make good beer in general, and a few that are truly world-class. I don't care who owns them, as long as the quality is consistent. I'll keep buying it.
     
  14. OneBeertoRTA

    OneBeertoRTA Initiate (0) Jan 2, 2010 California

    GI is definately craft. I get a kick out of waiters upon asking if they have any craft beers tell me they have Blue Moon. I think hell is some combination of being forced to watch Jersey Shore reruns and drink Blue Moon.
     
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  15. Durge

    Durge Pooh-Bah (2,441) May 22, 2007 Connecticut
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    Not being from the Chicago area I don't have heavy opinions about Goose Island but I have noticed them being distributed out east here a bit more recently and when at O'Hare last week I ventured into the GI "Brewpub" in Terminal C for a few hours. The Matilda was really delicious, but I was very put off when I see a meager number of taps (six) and of them only 3 of their own "craft" (read "tasty") brews were available. Room for Bud Light though! See, that ain't right. Why do they waste a tap on Bud Light? I understand that Bud/ InBev is their master now, but just peddle the crap beer in bottles for the masses that are content with anything as long as it doesn't challenge their sensory nodes, is cold, and oh yeah, familiar. Leave those taps for those of us that can actually tell the difference and really get off on oatmeal stouts and Belgian IPA's, or whatever the craft industry has to entertain us with. So this then was a sign of deterioration in Goose Island's principles to me. Bud will sell their piss beer at every venue in Chicago. Why do they need to clutter this precious little haven in Terminal C? Oh, that's right, 'cause they can. Oh what a slippery slope GI.....
     
  16. tewaris

    tewaris Initiate (0) Jul 14, 2009 Minnesota

    Actually the GI "Brewpub" has never been that great... I went there before the whole AB-Inbev thing and it was still disappointing. Passed time with a Honker's Ale.
     
  17. steveh

    steveh Grand Pooh-Bah (4,174) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    Yet, you agree with their assessment of Goose Island.
     
  18. steveh

    steveh Grand Pooh-Bah (4,174) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    Which brewpub did you go to?* Wrigleyville or 1800 Clybourn. If it was Clybourn and you still have the same opinion, I'll have to think you were impaired.

    Also, before it gets to the point, the A-B buy out did not include the pubs.

    *It appears you may have been talking about the O'Hare "kiosk" pub... this should not be considered in any assessment of Goose Island brewpubs -- it's an airport bar.
     
  19. steveh

    steveh Grand Pooh-Bah (4,174) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    He appears to be emoticonphobic. Sarcastic, but phobic! :grinning:
     
  20. tewaris

    tewaris Initiate (0) Jul 14, 2009 Minnesota

    Hence "brewpub" as opposed to brewpub.
     
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