St. Bernadus Wit in Cans

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  1. HopsDubosc

    HopsDubosc Pundit (803) Apr 24, 2015 Vermont

    This is great news. I just saw Monks Flemish Sour in cans as well (press release says this format began in '16, but first I'm seeing it). Bring 'em on!
     
  2. FBarber

    FBarber Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,325) Mar 5, 2016 Illinois
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    Its technically the same ounce format that it used to be in bottles - 4 x 11.2oz. Just now its significantly cheaper as the 4-pack of bottles was generally around $16-$18 and the 4-pack of cans is going for around $9.99.
     
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  3. bstyle

    bstyle Initiate (0) Apr 27, 2006 Indiana

    Yes, it’s the exact same liquid as the bottles. However, the cans are force carbonated. If you live anywhere in the Midwest and cannot find any cans, please PM me. Cheers!
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  4. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Any reason why they did not use can conditioning vs. forced carbonation?

    Cheers!
     
  5. beardown2489

    beardown2489 Pooh-Bah (1,966) Oct 5, 2012 Illinois
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    Jack, you probably have more knowledge on this than me. I know SNPA is can conditioned. But I was under the impression that was kind of unique to cans. Are there other examples you know off for can conditioning
     
  6. Jaycase

    Jaycase Grand Pooh-Bah (3,858) Jan 13, 2007 Illinois
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    Thanks to this thread, picked up a 4pk (9.99) at a local Binnys. Cans dated 8037 so I think Julian dating is safe to assume. Looking at D&V International's social media, these cans hit our shores back in March so the dating makes sense imo.
     
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  7. Jaycase

    Jaycase Grand Pooh-Bah (3,858) Jan 13, 2007 Illinois
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    Came across this post on another site which appears to be from a D&V International rep fwiw.
     
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  8. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    I am personally unaware of other examples beyond SNPA.

    A few years ago can-conditioning was discussed in this thread:

    https://www.beeradvocate.com/community/threads/has-anyone-had-can-conditioned-beer.291111/

    Based upon the input in post #27 by @Jaycase an 'issue' here is that the canning appears to be conducted off-site. Likely the facility in France is setup with a 'typical' canning line which utilizes forced carbonation.

    Needless to say but can-conditioning can be done (e.g.,SNPA). Maybe sometime in the future St. Bernardus will setup a canning line/system akin to what Sierra Nevada does for SNPA?

    Cheers!

    @SierraTerence
     
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  9. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    I just did a quick web search, here is another example of a can conditioned beer:



    Cheers!
     
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  10. generallee

    generallee Initiate (0) Apr 5, 2008 Virginia

    Sweet. I will have to check out the Whole Foods near me!!!
     
  11. rgordon

    rgordon Pooh-Bah (2,701) Apr 26, 2012 North Carolina
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    Sierra Nevada Pale Ale cans says can conditioned prominently under the name. I'm certain St Bernardus can conditions. I'll buy these the first time I see them...
     
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  12. beardown2489

    beardown2489 Pooh-Bah (1,966) Oct 5, 2012 Illinois
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    Someone a few posts above said the cans are force carbed.

    I had a can tonight. It doesn’t make THAT much difference. I was outside in the backyard hanging with friends and didn’t think twice about it. Tastes great.

    I wasn’t dissecting the beer, maybe I’d find a slim difference if I had been. But at the end of the day thats not what beers for. At least not in my backyard.
     
  13. bstyle

    bstyle Initiate (0) Apr 27, 2006 Indiana

    Simply put, the forced carbonated cans allow for more stability during shipping. As this was the first run, we didn't want to assume any additional risk.
     
  14. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Is there thinking to switch to can conditioning on subsequent runs?

    FWIW the bottle conditioned versions seemed to 'survive' shipping just fine.

    Cheers!
     
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  15. bstyle

    bstyle Initiate (0) Apr 27, 2006 Indiana

    Anything is possible, I suppose. Although, I'd like to take the "let's not fix, what's not broken" approach.
     
  16. Squire

    Squire Grand Pooh-Bah (4,385) Jul 16, 2015 Mississippi
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    I'm fine with the entire St. Bernadus line being canned.
     
  17. Prince_Casual

    Prince_Casual Savant (1,236) Nov 3, 2012 District of Columbia
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    English is not an official language in Belgium. I realize they print the labels in engrish, but it's still worth considering.
     
  18. Prince_Casual

    Prince_Casual Savant (1,236) Nov 3, 2012 District of Columbia
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    I saw these last week but sadly were $18.99 for 4x11.2, which is perhaps a fair price, but not that practical for me at the pool or whatever when there are so many kettled sours that are $9.99 6x12. It's a good idea though, hopefully it was just the shop I was at.
     
  19. Squire

    Squire Grand Pooh-Bah (4,385) Jul 16, 2015 Mississippi
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    True but English is officially understood every where.
     
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  20. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    The labels on beers imported into the US have to meet the requirements of the TTB which includes the name of the US importer (D&V in this case) as well as other info such as the contents in ounces and the US Health Warning. Obviously, the labels are written by or along with the US importer.

    Depending on the method of coding (printed on can/separate sticker, etc) that might be a factor of the canning line's coding mechanism, etc.

    But there's no reason this label's "Best Before" note (in blue) could not be expanded to at least explain the use of a Day of the Year (aka "Julian") code and if it is the canning date (which most folks in this thread have assumed) or a BB date.
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    Very unlikely a date on a beer is the day the beer was brewed (pretty useless to the consumer without knowing the length of the fermentation or aging, etc) - it is almost always a "Best By" or "Packaged On" date.

    Oddly, that strangely worded D&V label implies it is the former...:thinking_face:
     
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