Pints and Politics: Time for Another Round?

Religion in politics is the worst trend happening in American politics currently.

 

Religious people are more easily manipulated. That's why politicians love them so.

 

They clearly got duped at least once

 

You are a young fellow so you may not know this but ‘back in the day’ civics was actually taught in public schools. All of my older siblings took Civics courses. By the time it was my turn to learn Civics they changed things and instead I was taught Social Studies. I suppose some folks would state this was an improvement but IMO it was not. I would like to think that schools would ‘reverse course’ and go back to teaching Civics but frankly I do not see that happening; the public school system seems to prefer to teach social issues instead.

Cheers!

 

What about teaching history/social studies as one course, and american political thought/civics as the second? Do kids really need 4 years of a language they won't ever actually learn?

 

You have my support here but I doubt you could convince school systems to make this change. There is a reason that 'back in the day' (i.e., the 60's - 70's) that school systems decided to no longer teach Civics. I may be wrong here but I suspect that the ideological reasons for making this change are even stronger today than they were then.

Waaaay back there was a thought that education should provide each individual with the tools for critical thinking and independent thought. Do you think school systems today promote these ideals?

Cheers!

 

I went to high school and graduated in 2012. School systems do more to promote group think then any other modern institution. I’m definitely an outlier from that.

 

Cheers to you sir!!

 

When Lagunitas decided to sue Sierra Nevada:

https://www.beeradvocate.com/commun...nfringement-of-words-ipa-on-packaging.247315/

 

I'll go there. The average republicans have been dumbed down to reactionary fossils. That said. The forced insertion of the cross inside of GOP politics has been nothing short of a firestorm of stupid for the rest of the citizens who would like to participate in American life in the actual 21st century.

 

I'm going to have to diverge from the majority of responses and say that politics should probably be policed out of beer advocate forums. The above responses illustrate that such conversations will devolve into tired, generalized tropes about socialists, religious people, or parochial campus leftists - all the usual targets (perhaps sometimes deserved, however) of mockery in modern political discourse.

Let's just focus on beer, brewing, etc.

 

Honestly compared to any news comment section this is heavenly. Have you ever read the comments on Fox News or CNN? Just horrible. And yeah politics shouldn't be on this site much, but under a political thread I think there is no harm to it. And tired tropes? This site's comment section is chock full of them under every single thread!

 

Politics & legislation as it relates to the production, distribution, sale, taxation and consumption of beer & other beverages, is appropriate for discussion here, I think ... and there's a lot there to discuss, argue or agree over, rant about, get disgusted with, and try to make sense of. Yes ? No ?

 

Yes!

 

If the politics is related to beer in an ancillary way, as you suggest, then sure. But this forum is encouraging such discourse per se, without proper relation to beer/brewing. That's a big difference.

 

"Tired tropes" involving political generalizations - which are hardly ever edifying for either the generalizer or his audience, whatever they believe.

Such conversations always devolve into nastiness, especially in an age where there's no universal consensus about reality.

 

I thought politics was a no go on BA?

 

I don't think referring to political movements is necessarily generalizing a group of people, because let's be honest individual opinions these days mean literally nothing. Group think is so pervasive in our democracy we vote for one color or the other. Nothing really has dissolved into nastiness in this thread, so I understand your point but don't see it as applicable in this current thread.

 

So, in your opinion, GQChris's comment and MostlyNorwegian's response wouldn't qualify as being nasty?

And generalizations of whole groups of people are almost never benign. Since political discourse requires such generalizations (which is essentially what you admitted, ironically, after the "I don't think referring to political movements..." part of your statement), it's probably best that such dialogue is policed from BA.

 

So your point is something may be upsetting so don't talk about it? I get upset about an awful beer and I'll sure as heck talk about it Sometimes the beer world and the political worlds meet, so if you don't want to see the content don't click on the thread(s) with the word "politics" right in it! And I'd like to apologize for thinking a group of people's political opinions don't define them