Are We Killing Beer?

I wouldnt say "we"

There are brewers out there who dont brew beers like this. They just dont get the attention because the "creative" breweries that create these wild beers are more interesting to masses.

There are a lot of brewers in my region that are "normal" dont know the word. Troegs, Yards, Victory to name some. There are also a lot of members here who love lagers and do not drink a ton of DIPA or sweet stouts.

I get what youre saying though and i think the clout should go to brewers who create harder to brew styles instead of loading beers with sugar until it becomes unrecognizable.

 

You said:

 

What innovations are you seeing? To my eyes, there are precious few that have happened as of late.

 

Does Brut IPA's count? That's one right? I'll try to think of another.

 

Where does it say "wide variety" or "same beers". It says "other" beers, that is not wide variety. If you add or replace another beer style to what you drink you've increased your variety by one but you don't drink a wide variety of beers. Learning about other styles also doesn't indicate drinking the same beers, it just means trying other styles. So you are reading what you want to from my post not what it says.

 

And you are splitting hairs.

 

Adding amylase to beer is not a new thing.

 

Not at all, splitting hairs would be that we are arguing semantics. We aren't, we are arguing interpretation. You interpreted my words differently than what the intent was. You used broad interpretation to read something that wasn't said.

You state "What people are saying is that educated consumers are better consumers and that learning about all types of beer is what makes a better consumer, regardless of which beers that you drink more regularly."
By learning about "all types of beers" do you mean that people should try a wide (or all) variety of beers? Is learning only studying or is it drinking them as well?

 

Fair enough.

I think that people should exhibit curiosity beyond that which is easily accessible or familiar. Maybe that's too much to ask?

 

Could really do without JAIPA "Just Another IPA"

 

I could have written just those words. Around here, there are old-line breweries that have marked their turf and brew consistent quality brews-and not chasing trends. Natty Greene's, Red Oak, and Highland in Asheville. Olde Mecklenburg in Charlotte has a strong German bent, Haw River Farmhouse Ales in Saxapahaw has the Belgian /French border well done. Gibbs 100 here in Greensboro does English style beers beautifully, but also many others. The breweries that I like best are rooted to where they are, to their history, and to making consistent, interesting quality beers. Fonta Flora in Morganton/Nebo is particularly notable for being rooted to the gorgeous mountain territory and agricultural bounty.

 

I’m more about the homebrewing culture than I am commercial craft brewing at this point cause there is a lot more to talk about that interests me. I cringe every time a new post is created like “favorite altitude to drink beer” or “favorite type of beer while watching movies”.
As for commercial brewing being fucked.... ya pretty much this bubble is gonna pop bad. How much old beer can sit on shelves? The smaller guys who are taproom or brewery distribution only will be fine but eventually this market is going to crash in on itself.

 

Leave it to Jesus to be preachy about the "good old days.."

And this is exactly why I'm getting rid of my lawn, so I don't have to be the "Gran Torino" guy in a decade or two.

 

https://www.ecowatch.com/glyphosate-wine-beer-testing-2553632957.html

 

Well that is nice, but the problem isn't just the grains themselves, it's the soil, it's environment! Read: https://www.ecowatch.com/glyphosate-wine-beer-testing-2553632957.html

 

https://www.beeradvocate.com/community/threads/weedkiller-found-in-popular-beer-brands.565481/

We discussed this, but nobody seemed to care too much.

 

Thank you for the link. I'll follow up on it but be doing my own additional triple checking since I am just as suspicious of advocacy groups and their motives as I am of large corporate entities and their motives, especially if/when their statements contain misinformation or detectable errors.

But lets correct a misconception.

Your earlier comment about GM Barley does not apply. Beer does not use GM barley. There is no strain of GM barley approved for commercial use in the US.

http://ambainc.org/content/58/gm-statement

 

I think you may be right. I don't think there will be a great downward spiraling and general debacle. Some breweries will disappear and others will be born. Retailers always have to be vigilant and sell off close-dated beer as a matter of habit. Good wholesalers hopefully can keep inventory moving through their warehouses and also out of the retail outlets that carry their goods. Truth is there's always been old beer out there, but that is nothing new.

I'm certain that local consumers here are either smart enough to deny those beers from the outset, or are so backward about embracing some fads that they will be picked off one by one and change the way people around here have always been; and that's very, very unlikely. Now that we have really decent and highly flavorful beers, at a good price, that are made right here, doesn't mean Bud Light will sell any less, but it (Bud Light) will make less inroads into the real growth of these lovely local brews and the camaraderie surrounding them. Our local ballpark is an amazing place in showcasing a beer made just around the corner.

 

No its not. I agree with you, my question was a bit tongue in cheek.