Side Project (2018)

Discussion in 'Midwest' started by AndyEdgar, Feb 24, 2015.

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  1. Sabtos

    Sabtos Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,920) Dec 15, 2015 Ohio
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    Can't wait to see the price tag!

    Who else loves when breweries use their children as an excuse to charge exorbitant prices for beer? :expressionless:
     
  2. Heisenbrew

    Heisenbrew Savant (1,188) Aug 21, 2016 Missouri
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    All the Derivations are at least $50 so it’s not like OWK was unexpected
     
  3. evilcatfish

    evilcatfish Pooh-Bah (2,116) May 11, 2012 Missouri
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    I wouldn't mind seeing another barleywine from Shared to keep us satisfied until the next Anabasis batch comes out
     
  4. narddawg314

    narddawg314 Initiate (0) Feb 6, 2015 Missouri

    I heard he gave those bottles away to the La Chaturbate club members for no cost and had some on site for anyone that could attend for $50..
     
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  5. Beer_Economicus

    Beer_Economicus Pooh-Bah (2,698) Apr 8, 2017 Ohio
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    In all seriousness, it's kind of fucking sad that Cory can't trust 150 (wait, no I got that wrong) - 149 - shit, someone else got kicked out for selling OWK. - OK, 148 people. It's sad that Cory can't trust 148 people to just drink a bottle that they were given the ability to buy without any impediments.

    Sad state of the world (more so than the beer world) that people are such piles of shit that they'd rather look a gift Horse in the mouth than just be greatful and consume a great gift.

    Pathetic. I think it goes to show just what's wrong with this "scene" (the craft world).
     
  6. Readmorevols

    Readmorevols Zealot (548) Jun 5, 2016 Tennessee
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    Meh. He made a super rare beer and played a part in hyping the shit out of it. The free market decided to value the beer at 2k+. Can’t blame anyone who would sell 750ml or beer for 2k +. That buys a lot of diapers or whatever.

    I wouldn’t have sold it, but am smart enough to understand that 2k plus is a lot of money to some people.
     
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  7. Beer_Economicus

    Beer_Economicus Pooh-Bah (2,698) Apr 8, 2017 Ohio
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    I'm smart enough to understand that 2K plus is a lot of cheese. -But that's besides the point.

    This is a club you can't try to join/sign up, wait in line to join, etc. it's a club you have to be invited into. It's supposed to be a club for close friends and family. As a thank you, Cory is giving out these amazing beers.

    It's extremely selfish that you aren't able to accept this as a gift, but instead feel compelled to trade and/or sell it.

    Is it really that big of a deal to just consume the gift rather than trade or sell it?

    I'm not convinced that whomever sold it needed that money - that 1 time payout of 2 grand - that bad. If they did, then they did what they had to do. Seems more likely they were just being selfish, uncaring of this gift that Cory wanted to give them.

    Is this being self-richeous? I don't think so. Taking the moral high-ground, perhaps. It just doesn't seem like it should be that much to ask that if a I give you the priveledge of buying a bottle that others can't buy, that you do what is intended and actually consume it. I view this as no different than trading a beer to a close trading partner - a valuable beer - for way under market value because you care about them, and you are doing so because the intention are that they are going to drink it rather than to profit off of you. If they were to then sell it? That's a pretty big "fuck you, I don't care about you." Selfish.
     
  8. bread_c

    bread_c Pundit (932) Feb 19, 2015 Illinois
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    I feel like we've disagreed on some other things throughout the thread, but I just really wanted to emphasize how much I totally agree with this whole post (figured these two lines summed it up well enough).

    At the risk of coming across as bragging (which I'm really not trying to do) I am a member, and feel incredibly grateful that I was invited. I can't begin to imagine selling any of the beers, and I hope the vast majority of other members feel the same way. To the extent that they can weed resellers out and replace them with people that will actually appreciate it, all the better.

    I personally have no interest in even trading member beers, I just plan on sharing them with friends. Based on how few Oude Fermier / OWK that I've seen traded I wouldn't be surprised if the majority of members feel that way.
     
  9. Readmorevols

    Readmorevols Zealot (548) Jun 5, 2016 Tennessee
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    It’s not besides the point. It is the point. It’s a beer.....that’s worth 2k+. That amount of money is worth a lot more than any beer to some people.

    I just think it’s a hard line. I see both sides.

    Lol at “the privilege to buy”. If you buy it you can do with it as you please.

    Disagreed with the second part of your post too. Especially if that trade partner is also sending you valuable beers way under market value.
     
  10. Readmorevols

    Readmorevols Zealot (548) Jun 5, 2016 Tennessee
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    I honestly feel like you do about being in a club and have no interest in trading or selling beers from the select clubs I’m in. I’m just saying I see the other side when beer values sky rocket to the amount OWK has.

    I’m a two bottle member in 3 sons and will never sell or trade any of their stuff but I won’t damn the people who do like the guy above.
     
  11. narddawg314

    narddawg314 Initiate (0) Feb 6, 2015 Missouri

    I think you're missing the point of who has a membership. The people that are in, are either very close friends/family or people who have spent a lot of money at the Cellar buying Side Project beers. Those people can afford to not need to sell this bottle and it would be a greed move. If there was some sort of medical emergency or some shit and they needed to sell the bottle for cash, I'm sure having a conversation with Cory about beforehand would go over much better than just selling it for profit.
     
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  12. Readmorevols

    Readmorevols Zealot (548) Jun 5, 2016 Tennessee
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    I’m not missing what you think my point is. My situation with 3 sons is similar. At the end of the day 2k+ for a beer is a lot of money no matter how you know or are related to someone. Corey has played a part in building said hype that created this market.

    I’m just a believer in the free market.
     
  13. Sabtos

    Sabtos Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,920) Dec 15, 2015 Ohio
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    You can believe in the free market and still think these people are *****. No one is calling for hanging them or making them give the money back. Although, I believe, their membership is at risk if they are found out, yes?
     
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  14. Readmorevols

    Readmorevols Zealot (548) Jun 5, 2016 Tennessee
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    You can’t get mad at someone for selling something you sold to them and believe in the free market.
     
  15. bread_c

    bread_c Pundit (932) Feb 19, 2015 Illinois
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    Reselling was explicitly given as grounds for removal from the club when people were first invited
     
  16. Readmorevols

    Readmorevols Zealot (548) Jun 5, 2016 Tennessee
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    I’m ok with it from CK’s point of view. More talking about self righteous name calling above. And that at the end of the day I understand selling a beer that’s worth 2k.
     
  17. Beer_Economicus

    Beer_Economicus Pooh-Bah (2,698) Apr 8, 2017 Ohio
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    Pretty much this:

    It's no different than with something like the mustang GT. You sign something saying you won't (at least for 2 years) sell the car. If they didn't, people would flip them. But that's not the point of ford hand picking who receives a mustang GT. They aren't giving people the ability to buy a mustang GT so they can resell it, they are doing it for other reasons. Yes for them it's marketing, mostly, but the point is you can't just say "I want it," and get in.

    Same thing here. Cory hand picked who could join. It's incredibly insulting to take that ability, and tell him you don't care at all by reselling. (IMO also insulting to trade, but we know that couldn't be enforced.) You're implicitly saying that you care more about whatever you get in return compared to not only this beer, but all future beers from the membership as well. Again, this is essentially the definition of insulting to me.
     
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  18. Readmorevols

    Readmorevols Zealot (548) Jun 5, 2016 Tennessee
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    You mean the Ford GT. It’s not a mustang.


    I’m ok with his point of view but I’m not gonna hate and hurl insults/call names when someone sells a beer that’s worth 2k. I see both sides. You’re taking it way too personal when it’s just money/beer. Just have to agree to disagree and that’s perfectly fine.
     
  19. evilcatfish

    evilcatfish Pooh-Bah (2,116) May 11, 2012 Missouri
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    It's pretty low of somebody who is considered family or a friend to capitalize on their membership in such manner. Also, a little disrespectful to fellow beer drinkers who've been around since the beginning that were not given the privilege. But hey, that's just my thoughts.
     
  20. narddawg314

    narddawg314 Initiate (0) Feb 6, 2015 Missouri

    So you're saying that agreeing to not do something as a condition of membership, and then doing said thing is just fine by you because DOLLAZ BRO!! Gimme a break man. That's dispicable cuntish behavior.
     
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