Opinions on beer styles

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by beerandrecords, Jun 30, 2018.

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  1. Amendm

    Amendm Pooh-Bah (2,601) Jun 7, 2018 Rhode Island
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    I have never brewed beer but if I did and expected to make a profit doing so;
    AIPA
    AIPA
    and 1x double AIPA
    Speaking for the So. New England region.

    Now if I had really great brewing skills, (and I'm not saying AIPAs don't require skills) I would brew Belgian;
    Pale Ale
    Strong Pale Ale
    and Dubbel.
    Belgian beers and styles seen to be very popular in this region.
     
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  2. JohnnyChicago

    JohnnyChicago Initiate (0) Sep 3, 2010 Illinois

    Realistically, you are going to want to do one of two things: 1. Use one yeast strain and 3 different worts. 2. Use 3 yeast strains and 1 wort (and buy an oversized brewhouse.

    This will allow you to operate a small operation on a skeleton crew (1 or 2 people) and post a reasonable profit without pushing people into working inhumane hours.
     
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  3. Urk1127

    Urk1127 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,790) Jul 2, 2014 New Jersey
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    First 3 on tap at my brewery would be a saison, a stout and an IPA.
     
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  4. WhiteHart

    WhiteHart Aspirant (257) Apr 16, 2018 North Carolina

    Yeah that's pretty sad. Sounds like the list of a 20 year old sorority chick that doesn't really like beer and wishes she could try some of this "Zima" her mom swears used to be so good.
     
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  5. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    Definitely an IPA of some type, most definately a Pils, and a Hefe. It's what people want, the Hefe appeals to occasional beer drinkers as does the Pils.
     
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  6. JamFuel

    JamFuel Grand High Pooh-Bah (9,284) Mar 26, 2009 Sweden
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    My three taps, apart from the 26 different IPAs, would be a really sour Berliner Weiße, a proper German pilsner and a Quad. That’s a brewery I would visit...
     
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  7. Greywulfken

    Greywulfken Grand Pooh-Bah (5,815) Aug 25, 2010 New York
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    IPA
    DIPA
    Imperial stout
     
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  8. thesherrybomber

    thesherrybomber Initiate (0) Jun 13, 2017 California

    Oh, wow. This might be the first time on this site I've seen so many of my favorite styles mentioned.

    Not a brewer, but something "basic", like pale ale, brown, mild, etc. Then, pilsner, because it sounds challenging, and it looks to be the next big thing. If not, something like common, cream ale, or another "indigenous" American style that has fallen out of popularity.

    Otherwise, maybe something "weird" involving aging, spontaneous fermentation, adjuncts, etc. Belgium has many examples.
     
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  9. threeviews

    threeviews Initiate (0) Apr 18, 2011 Florida

    @2ellas
    I completely understand your thinking...but my entire business plan would go 'against the grain' of modern Capitalism. I would start small and stay small with absolutely no ideas of grandeur. If my brewery grew organically, that is one thing...but I would never pander to the (often fleeting) palates of the customers. I would never lead anyone astray and cajole them into purchasing my product. My vision is/would be laser focused into the styles that I want to present people, especially in The States where properly executed Belgian-Style beers are quite hard to find.
     
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  10. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Your plan is an option if:
    • You are fully self funded and do not need sufficient revenue/sales to keep your business afloat
    • You customers fully 'buy in' to your business plan and buy your product at rates to meet your business obligations
    I know of more than one small, local brewery that had to 'adjust' their product line so that they sold enough beer to pay their monthly debt obligations and meet payroll.

    Cheers!
     
  11. threeviews

    threeviews Initiate (0) Apr 18, 2011 Florida

    @JackHorzempa
    Check and Check with regard to both of your bulletpoints. I am more than willing to stay small and remain small...and happy to appreciate and educate all that walk through the door.

    I love me all of the new hop varietals flooding the market these days and would use them enthusiastically. However, I would never sacrifice them in absurd amounts the way many a brewer does nowadays.
     
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  12. psychgawsple

    psychgawsple Initiate (0) Dec 5, 2010 Oregon

    I don't think the three styles should somehow span the breadth of all beer styles and what is possible, just focus on drinkability to set yourself apart. I'd love to have the following beers available to sip on in a retail space:
    • wheat pale ale (hoppy / light / crisp)
    • unfiltered pilsner
    • dry-hopped table beer or grisette
    These would allow you to experiment with different hops and yeast profiles but would keep things low ABV... interesting but still accessible. Good luck!
     
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  13. Domingo

    Domingo Grand Pooh-Bah (4,252) Apr 23, 2005 Colorado
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    Commercial viability probably varies on whether packaging is in the cards and what kind of your audience you have.

    For instance, in Denver I'd go with a milkshake IPA, fruited kettle sour, and a barrel-aged adjunct stout. I'd put them in cheaply labeled 16oz hand-filled cans and make them super limited and line-inducing.

    Pretty sure that same strategy wouldn't work everywhere, though.
     
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  14. IPAExpert69

    IPAExpert69 Savant (1,065) Aug 2, 2017 Pennsylvania

    Commercial Viability:
    IPA
    DIPA
    NEIPA

    My Personal Choice:
    Sour
    IPA
    Pilsner
     
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  15. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    FWIW you would have me as a customer.

    In a few minutes I will be bottling a batch of El Dorado IPA where I 'only' used three ounces for dry hopping a 5 gallon batch. The contemporary beer geeks would be disappointed in my effort here.

    Cheers!
     
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  16. beerandrecords

    beerandrecords Initiate (0) Jun 28, 2017 Pennsylvania

    Yeah - I want to try and cover as much as possible without going nuts. I also want to focus on the quality of the beers we brew as opposed to getting crazy with innovation. I love inventive beers to try but I generally always come back to the more traditional styles. What I don't want to happen is the place get a reputation for being inconsistent. I've been to brewpubs where when it's "on" it's "ON!" but it also can be off...
     
  17. beerandrecords

    beerandrecords Initiate (0) Jun 28, 2017 Pennsylvania

    That is a good question... I guess I'd like to keep it somewhat simple with a broad appeal... however this thread is got me to thinking about other options...
     
  18. beerandrecords

    beerandrecords Initiate (0) Jun 28, 2017 Pennsylvania

    There will be an IPA, probably not a double but maybe a New England. I want to do something darker and was thinking a pilsner as well but these sours seem to be in demand right now although not my favorite beers...
     
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  19. beerandrecords

    beerandrecords Initiate (0) Jun 28, 2017 Pennsylvania

    There will most definitely be a focus on quality and consistency. However, I won't be the brewer - my skill set is on the retail end.
     
  20. Sweatshirt

    Sweatshirt Initiate (0) Jan 27, 2014 New Hampshire

    Pilsner, rotating fruit/spice kettle sour and an IPL.
     
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