Country specific IPAs

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  1. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Which adds an extra German 'twist' to producing an IPA.

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  2. TongoRad

    TongoRad Grand Pooh-Bah (3,884) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    @StoneBrewing - time to bring back Gotterdammerung, the world may be ready for it now. :slight_smile:

    16oz. cans wouldn't be such a bad idea, either...
     
  3. Snowcrash000

    Snowcrash000 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,041) Oct 4, 2017 Germany
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    True, although I'm not really sure how well that works out. These IPAs really do all have quite a noticeable graininess to them, some a little more, some a little less, that didn't really work for me personally.
     
  4. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Hopefully Tony (@boddhitree) will chime into this discussion. It is my recollection that he appreciates a balanced IPA (i.e., a combo of hops and maltiness).

    Cheers!
     
  5. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Michael, I was unfamiliar with Götterdämmerung IPA so I did a bit of web surfing:

    “Stone 17th Anniversary Götterdämmerung IPA

    Style Double IPA

    Alc/Vol 9.5%

    IBUs 102

    Inspired by new experimental German hops, our brewing team is celebrating our 17ten Jahrestag by taking palates on an unconventional tour of Deutschland by way of Southern California. In doing so, we used a grain bill composed exclusively of pilsner malts and German hops with crazy awesome names: Herkules, Hersbrucker, Magnum, Merkur, Opal, Smaragd & Strisselspalt. Dry-hopping with Sterling, a U.S. hop with Saaz parentage, lends a bit of familiarity, but be forewarned: This is a unique beer that takes the IPA—a style we’ve already pushed far beyond its previous limits over the years—to interesting new territory. Schumpeter chose economics; we chose beer. Our creative destruction has been aimed squarely at the previously-held-dear conventions of what beer can and should be. Stone 17th Anniversary Götterdämmerung IPA is the latest in a long line of innovations, but nowhere near the last. Not by a long shot.”

    https://www.stonebrewing.com/beer/stone-anniversary-ales/stone-17th-anniversary-götterdämmerung-ipa#ageGatePassed

    At 102 IBUs this particular beer is a bit ‘old school’. I wonder how a bitter beer like this would play in today’s market?

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  6. Roadkizzle

    Roadkizzle Initiate (0) Nov 6, 2007 Texas

    Are there any good ones that rely on the traditional aroma hops? Or do they all use the new fruity contemporary ones?
     
  7. deleted_user_1007501

    deleted_user_1007501 Initiate (0) Jun 30, 2015

    ...like...a west coast IPA?
     
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  8. Snowcrash000

    Snowcrash000 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,041) Oct 4, 2017 Germany
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    There's one by a small brewery that's brewed with two Hallertau varieties and then dry-hopped with Huell Melon which is very good.

    But yeah, they all use the contemporary hops to some degree, I'm not sure how well an IPA brewed with noble hops only would work, to be honest... Huell Melon really is a great hop though.
     
  9. Roadkizzle

    Roadkizzle Initiate (0) Nov 6, 2007 Texas

    That's what I assumed. I don't think that anyone could define a style if it's not really possible for someone drinking the beers to tell it apart from another style.

    At least not when we're talking about substyles of a big one.

    The IPAs that I've had focusing on the modern fruity German hops aren't out of place sitting next to IPAs with only American hops. It adds a few tweaks to flavors but still ends up in the same boat.

    I like the floral aspect to De Ranke XXX bitter. It seems like they really focus on the basic hallertau hop flavor but the phenols from the yeast get to me. I'd love to try a big floral IPA with cleaner yeast.
     
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