How long does it take to reset your palate from "lupulin shift"?

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by Lucular, Aug 10, 2018.

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Avoid hoppy beers for a minimum of ___ to "reset" your palate?

  1. I've done this and it works

  2. I've done this and didn't notice much or any difference

  3. 2 weeks or less (guess)

  4. 2 weeks or less (from experience)

  5. 4 weeks (guess)

  6. 4 weeks (from experience)

  7. 6 weeks (guess)

  8. 6 weeks (from experience)

  9. 2 months or longer (guess)

  10. 2 months or longer (from experience)

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  1. Lucular

    Lucular Grand Pooh-Bah (4,367) Jun 20, 2014 Maryland
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    I'm just over 2 weeks into an "IPA fast" - no pale ales, (I)IPAs, barleywines, etc. I'm planning on going 4 weeks without hoppy beers and I'm curious to hear what the experience of other BAs has been with "lupulin shift" and palate reset. Is 4 weeks long enough? Will IPAs really taste any different? What kind of hoppy beer should I go for first after my "fast"?

    Note on the poll: Please vote whether you've done this before - select either one of the "guess" or "from experience" options. Cheers!
     
  2. dennis3951

    dennis3951 Initiate (0) Mar 6, 2008 New Jersey

    I did it and did notice any difference. I didn't do it to reset my palate. Had to do it because I was on meds for 30 days. I'm not a hop head but I drink a lot of hoppy beer and they tasted the same se before.
     
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  3. IPAExpert69

    IPAExpert69 Savant (1,065) Aug 2, 2017 Pennsylvania

    I've gone 36 hours and that ends at 5pm. Cheers!
     
  4. EvenMoreJesus

    EvenMoreJesus Initiate (0) Jun 8, 2017 Pennsylvania

    About as long as it takes for my next beer to arrive.
     
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  5. LiquidAmber

    LiquidAmber Grand Pooh-Bah (5,734) Feb 20, 2009 Washington
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    This survey has a lot of choices for weeks and months, but none for less than a week, which is odd. If I am reviewing, I try to alternate days with IPAs (IPA first day, non-hoppy beer the next, then back to IPA), which seems to be fine for me. If I have an IPA that is tongue searingly hoppy, I might wait a few days. Unfortunately, for me it appears that natural random changes in taste overwhelm any clear estimate of lupulin taste changes.
    There is a practical aspect too: there are a lot more IPAs coming on the market now (see recent IPA proliferation thread). Waiting a week or more to review a new IPA is simply not possible. And that's having largely given up on NE hazy IPAs, which seem to have new ones out hourly.
     
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  6. TheIPAHunter

    TheIPAHunter Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,026) Aug 12, 2007 California
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    I've gone 120 days before. It accomplished nothing. I do believe there's no hope for a select group of folks. When you drink IPAs the way I do, the damage is irreparable.
     
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  7. Celtics76

    Celtics76 Pooh-Bah (1,781) Sep 5, 2011 Rhode Island
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    Consistently taking 3-4 days off during the week keeps the palate fresh for me.
     
  8. deleted_user_1007501

    deleted_user_1007501 Initiate (0) Jun 30, 2015

    Seconded. Definitely taking a small break from beer all together helps reset much faster than if you were to just drink non-hoppy beers.
     
  9. Squire

    Squire Grand Pooh-Bah (4,385) Jul 16, 2015 Mississippi
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    If I drink a very hoppy beer followed by a less hoppy one I notice the difference so my reset lever is pretty quick.
     
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  10. Lucular

    Lucular Grand Pooh-Bah (4,367) Jun 20, 2014 Maryland
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    Seeing the votes and comments so far, I wish I had included shorter time frames!
    Interesting. Last week I took 4 days off from beer entirely so I guess I checked that box too.
    I'm curious what this means in practical experience. Does a beer like SNPA have no hoppiness to your palate? On a certain level I suppose that's true for virtually all of us - at one point our palates were exposed to the first time to hops and over time we've gotten used to them, so we'll never experience that first reaction to strong hop flavors again.
     
  11. TongoRad

    TongoRad Grand Pooh-Bah (3,884) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    It all depends on how 'far gone' you are :wink:, I guess, but for me I've done a couple of weeks and I've felt a definite reset. This is usually after a vacation out of the country or something, but yeah, the hops seem more vibrant and distinct afterwards.
     
  12. TonyLema1

    TonyLema1 Pooh-Bah (2,890) Nov 19, 2008 South Carolina
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    I drink mostly IPAs and recently, I’ve stopped drinking beer during the week, no change in my tastes at all
     
  13. Dan411

    Dan411 Initiate (0) Mar 20, 2017 Missouri

    Really for me, just a work week does it just fine to reset. I can drink a Kolsch on a Friday, after no beer for 4-5 days, and I can pick up on the subtle hops. Now, give me a IPA of at least 60 IBU's on a Sunday of a three day weekend IPA bender, and it's pretty blah.
     
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  14. TheIPAHunter

    TheIPAHunter Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,026) Aug 12, 2007 California
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    Yes. I can only speak for myself, but I think the "hunt" ruined me. I feel like the newer, juicy IPAs hold for the most part; the classics that I used to love, i.e., Stone IPA (original version) & Bell's Two Hearted just don't have that pop that used to wow me. A lot of them feel bland and devoid of hop flavor. I feel like this is a natural part of the process, but it sucks. I also feel like it depends on your consumption level. A casual IPA drinker might be able to cleanse their palate in mere weeks; whereas, for me... all hope is gone. Cheers.
     
  15. EvenMoreJesus

    EvenMoreJesus Initiate (0) Jun 8, 2017 Pennsylvania

    Ever just frame it as, "these are two different types of beer"?

    It's like trying to compare a hoppy Pils and an NEIPA. Both are very hop forward, just in very different ways. It makes neither less good, however.
     
  16. TheIPAHunter

    TheIPAHunter Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,026) Aug 12, 2007 California
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    I only frame things that require it. Get the picture? :wink:

    In all seriousness, both styles incorporate hops & both have IBUs. I think my point holds well no matter how you slice it. Someone like me has obviously been impacted by the obsession of trying new stuff. Cheers, brother.
     
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  17. cavedave

    cavedave Grand Pooh-Bah (4,157) Mar 12, 2009 New York
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    I have needed to do it about five times. There was no choice for 3 weeks in the poll, but that is what it takes to get me back to "normal". No hoppy beers, including stouts, for three weeks is what it takes to reset me. Nowadays I switch up constantly since so many styles of great beer are so easily available and I don't get LTS.
     
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  18. TongoRad

    TongoRad Grand Pooh-Bah (3,884) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    That's the real key, right there.
     
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  19. matthewp

    matthewp Pundit (856) Feb 27, 2015 Massachusetts
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    The shift isn't infinite. If the analogy is spicy food then I'd need to just spray pepper spray directly into my mouth now based on my eating of spicy food to feel any heat. I've reached a plateau in my spicy food shift and I'd expect that I've hit a plateau in my hoppy beer drinking. I don't need to reset my spicy tolerance and I don't need to reset my hoppy tolerance. Indeed I don't perceive much hops or bitterness in say SNPA but who cares? I still taste the hops and bitterness in higher hopped beers. They taste great as they are and there's no need for a reset. I think people are expecting miracles by taking a break from hoppy beers that I don't think is there.
     
  20. TrojanRB

    TrojanRB Grand Pooh-Bah (3,779) Jul 27, 2013 Texas
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    I took a 2 week break from all booze earlier this summer, and definitely accomplished a palate reset.

    I’m still avoiding most of the big IPA’s, preferring to enjoy the nuanaces of pilsners and lagers for now.
     
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