Controversial Beer Opinions Thread

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by Kraz, Feb 14, 2018.

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  1. JoePasko

    JoePasko Zealot (529) Mar 10, 2018 New York

    I think that if half of the breweries who come out with pumpkin beer every year where to discontinue this practice, there would still be sufficient amounts to meet the demand for it.
     
  2. IPAExpert69

    IPAExpert69 Savant (1,065) Aug 2, 2017 Pennsylvania

    Everything in New Jersey that's a 4 pack is over 10 bucks, as a recently employed millennial I feel the pain. But sadly I still will buy that specialty 4 pack for 15.99, guess I'm a proud sucker.
     
  3. IPAExpert69

    IPAExpert69 Savant (1,065) Aug 2, 2017 Pennsylvania

    I felt personally attacked reading this :slight_frown:
    Triple IPA's are a fun winter specialty to get wrecked off on the holidays, especially Cape May Snag And Drop, one of my favorite all time beers.
     
  4. oldbean

    oldbean Initiate (0) Jun 30, 2005 Massachusetts

    Seems unlikely but either way, who cares?
     
  5. EvenMoreJesus

    EvenMoreJesus Initiate (0) Jun 8, 2017 Pennsylvania

    I think he does, champ.
     
  6. JoePasko

    JoePasko Zealot (529) Mar 10, 2018 New York

    Good question. Every November at our local beverage center, there will be stacks and stacks of unsold cases & 12-packs of pumpkin beer, being offered a very low prices (as low $3.99 per 12-pack). Who takes the loss ? The distributor or the brewing company ? Why do they continue to over-produce this product, knowing there will be so much left over ?
     
  7. TongoRad

    TongoRad Grand Pooh-Bah (3,884) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    In that case it's the store- but if they're smart they'll order a lot less next time and then the distributors will have something to deal with.

    ETA: I wish more stores around here would do that kind of thing when sales are showing signs of seriously declining- realize that breaking even is better than either taking a total bath or letting old stock clog the shelves and floor space.
     
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  8. Troutbeerbum

    Troutbeerbum Initiate (0) Dec 5, 2016 Maine

    This is absolutely the case here as well. The same practice applies to Shandy beers.
     
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  9. YouGuysAreSick

    YouGuysAreSick Initiate (0) Jun 15, 2018 Maryland

    Our store has just started stocking them earlier, as soon as August 1 comes around so do the bombers of Pumking
     
  10. CNoj012

    CNoj012 Initiate (0) Dec 7, 2014 New York

    The stores aren't always the ones who take the loss. If the distributor is overloaded and the product gets into close coded territory they will blow it out at a deep discount.

    Lots of stores will take advantage of this and put it on the shelf at regular price to make double or triple the profit, but we do exactly the opposite. Currently we have 12pks of Sol that are best buy September 2018 on sale for $6.99. Customers get $10 off regular retail, we still make almost 30%, and we've sold thru 100 cases in the last week.

    And also bc our distributors know we will sell close coded product at a fair price and in such bulk, we always get first crack at it.

    Win-Win-Win situation...except for the distributor who is losing their shirt on the Sol

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  11. TongoRad

    TongoRad Grand Pooh-Bah (3,884) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    The other situation was more of a seasonal product that's been sitting around in the store too long, but I've seen this sort of deal, too. One of the stores I shop at will do the same sort of thing- bring in a stack of something cheap to take it off of the distributor's hands, and sell it at a great 'discount' to make a few quick bucks. One time they were selling an English ESB, 20 oz bottles, at $1 a piece; and for the price it was a damn tasty beer.
     
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  12. CNoj012

    CNoj012 Initiate (0) Dec 7, 2014 New York

    I'm sorry, I misunderstood. Although it definitely happens with seasonals too. Sam Adams Hopscape is still the butt of many jokes amongst distributors.
     
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  13. rgordon

    rgordon Pooh-Bah (2,701) Apr 26, 2012 North Carolina
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    "The Polite Troll" sounds like a story to me.
     
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  14. Bruinsfan87

    Bruinsfan87 Initiate (0) Aug 25, 2014 New Hampshire

    I enjoy a Miller High Life when i'm low on funds for my craft beer....
     
  15. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,846) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    Or the name of a trendy new art-rock band.
     
  16. JoePasko

    JoePasko Zealot (529) Mar 10, 2018 New York

    True. Very often there will be cases of LeinenKoolaid stacked up by the front door, selling for dirt cheap, as well.
     
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  17. JoePasko

    JoePasko Zealot (529) Mar 10, 2018 New York

    The brewers and distributors of pumpkin beer promote it as if it is a beloved seasonal favorite, whose annual arrival is anticipated by one and all ..... like Cadbury eggs, or something like that. But among consumers at large, I wonder if perhaps the perception is more along the lines of holiday fruitcake.
     
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  18. TongoRad

    TongoRad Grand Pooh-Bah (3,884) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    :grin:

    Trends do come and go, and things may be heading in that direction, but pumpkin beers were the shit not so long ago. Heck, for a number of brewers their pumpkin beer was their #1 seller. It might still be true for Weyerbacher or Shipyard, but certainly not as a general rule anymore.
     
  19. JoePasko

    JoePasko Zealot (529) Mar 10, 2018 New York

    According to the article, this is a fall staple, too. Not the least bit appealing to me, but I guess fine folk in Honeoye Falls NY love it :stuck_out_tongue: I would be curious as to how much they make of it and how much they expect to sell. And in what sort of beer-drinking scenario would this be someone's choice of beverage ?

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  20. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,132) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    That makes about as much sense as a beer brewed with green beans, cream of mushroom soup, and fried onions.
     
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