Other Half (August 2018)

Discussion in 'Mid-Atlantic' started by algebeeric_topology, Aug 1, 2018.

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  1. TheNinthLetter

    TheNinthLetter Pundit (828) Apr 16, 2017 New York
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    I dont take it as selling out, I just look at it as the next step in expanding their business without actually selling out. They have expanded their brewing capacity immensely recently and it will get even bigger when the new tank system is completed. The lining up at 6 am and beer selling out by 1030 am days are over, and they make enough beer to have something available all week now basically, so there is not much more they can do locally to grow IMO (unless they bought a brand new facility and moved so they could support a larger taproom/brewpub type situation).

    Just curious on your thoughts (not asking to be a dick), if the new other half opened up an hour or so north of the city (like Canton/Fort Point) instead of in Rochester or DC, would that be better? I still think it would be the same overall thing, except that they are already hitting that outside the city market here in BK, so going further away makes more sense to me.

    And just think, its going to be very exciting to try that OH BK x OH ROC x OH DC collab.
     
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  2. psychgawsple

    psychgawsple Initiate (0) Dec 5, 2010 Oregon

    I definitely think that remaining within the region would be a far more preferable way to expand, from a customer perspective. As opposed to sniffing out prime markets where they know they can make more $ they'd be continuing to invest in an NYC beer scene, which (lest we forget) has not always been as healthy as it is now.
     
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  3. NewmansOwn

    NewmansOwn Initiate (0) Jun 25, 2016 New York

    I just hope they dont start doing special releases that are only upstate. I dont see it as selling out at all. Other Half is still one of the few local breweries that you have to physically visit to get cans or bottles, they're expanding to try and change that. A day will come when we will be able to buy OH alongside Interboro or KCBC at bottle shops and places like Whole Foods.
     
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  4. TheNinthLetter

    TheNinthLetter Pundit (828) Apr 16, 2017 New York
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    But what would opening a brewery, lets say up by Hudson Valley, actually do to help the NYC beer scene?
     
  5. bgold86

    bgold86 Pooh-Bah (1,836) Apr 1, 2015 New York
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    No doubt this will be the case but I expect Brooklyn to get the bulk if not all collabs.
     
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  6. psychgawsple

    psychgawsple Initiate (0) Dec 5, 2010 Oregon

    I'd be really surprised if OH started to distribute. We now all know the difference between distro'd Grimm and straight from the brewery Grimm, I do not trust distributors or retailers whatsoever to keep beer fresh / cold / free of heat damage (WF in particular).

    Also, I think on-premises only sales for OH is a feature not a bug. It's by far the cheapest way to sell their stock, and it maintains a much higher quality product than they could offer through distro.
     
  7. algebeeric_topology

    algebeeric_topology Pooh-Bah (2,052) Dec 30, 2014 Florida
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    This is how I take it too. Sure there could be more OH beer on tap throughout the city, but they've stuffed that Brooklyn space with equipment and they're brewing non stop. Cans are available pretty much every day now.

    Yeah, distro'd Grimm wasn't as bad :stuck_out_tongue:. Lambo and Tesseract have been noticeably worse in the new cans. I poured out the last of my cans last night to make room for Hop Showers.
     
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  8. psychgawsple

    psychgawsple Initiate (0) Dec 5, 2010 Oregon

    It would provide yet another high quality beer destination to visit in the region, and it would allow them to expand while still keeping a strong local presence. I don't personally care about availability as much now that they're able to keep a consistent supply of cans around, but it'd make OH much more accessible to folks in the HV area at minimum. Not to mention that the profits would presumably be retained within the region and invested in some way, also jobs.
     
  9. psychgawsple

    psychgawsple Initiate (0) Dec 5, 2010 Oregon

    I guess some people prefer heat damaged, overpriced beer you have to chase trucks for? :rolling_eyes:
     
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  10. algebeeric_topology

    algebeeric_topology Pooh-Bah (2,052) Dec 30, 2014 Florida
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    I'm as surprised as you are that heat damaged cans taste better.

    Edit: and not all of us had to chase trucks for a can (or 4 packs) of Grimm. Most cans would sit at UWS WF (often refrigerated) at 18 to 22 a 4pk.
     
  11. psychgawsple

    psychgawsple Initiate (0) Dec 5, 2010 Oregon

    I can't tell you how many bars I go to in this city where Lagunitas is the only IPA option.
     
  12. psychgawsple

    psychgawsple Initiate (0) Dec 5, 2010 Oregon

    That's true... a lot of this was completely dependent on the retailer. My local spot was literally selling 4 packs for $40 and they were in the "special beer" area of the shop, which was for some reason not refrigerated lol
     
  13. algebeeric_topology

    algebeeric_topology Pooh-Bah (2,052) Dec 30, 2014 Florida
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    The worst thing about Grimm opening their own brewery is not getting Food Emporium Ray to chime in on the Grimm thread and remind us of how terrible we are for criticizing the stores that overcharge for old, warm cans as well as remind us that it's our fault it happens.
     
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  14. TheNinthLetter

    TheNinthLetter Pundit (828) Apr 16, 2017 New York
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    I guess we will just have to agree to disagree because I am not following how opening an Other Half location in an area like Beacon, outside of NYC, helps to support the NYC beer scene. They don't need a local presence, they have that in spades. To me, 60-90 minutes away or 5 hours away is the same to the people engaging in said NYC beer scene, and are both likely too far away to visit anyway when I can go to BK.
     
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  15. bgold86

    bgold86 Pooh-Bah (1,836) Apr 1, 2015 New York
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    OH has lots of supporters that are not local, makes no sense to open another brewery 30 minutes or an hour away when they can serve a new craft beer hungry segment elsewhere. TBH, they owe no one anything! This is a business. Period.

    I wish them tons of success and will definitely visit DC when I visit family.
     
  16. SpinSamzo

    SpinSamzo Maven (1,276) Mar 11, 2017 New York
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    I saw that Monkish released a bootshaped drinking glass a month or so ago, and i just want the lurking Other Half employees to know that I would buy an OH branded boot.
     
  17. FatSkippy

    FatSkippy Initiate (0) Mar 21, 2005 New York

    Where is the DC announcement?
     
  18. psychgawsple

    psychgawsple Initiate (0) Dec 5, 2010 Oregon

    I don't think they have a local presence "in spades" really, some fancier BK places have them on tap but that's about it. It'd make a huge difference to be able to make significant inroads in the draft scene in this city alone, much less throughout Westchester / LI / HV / NNJ or even CT.

    I think it's odd to say that breweries like EQ / HV / Suarez don't contribute to the NYC beer scene when they're in the metro area, distribute kegs exclusively (with only a few exceptions) to this region and participate in NYC events quite often. Definitely don't agree that 60-90 minutes is the same as 5 hours to most people, and in this hypothetical presumably it'd be much closer to many folks who don't live in the 5 boroughs.
     
  19. BoardwalkBock

    BoardwalkBock Pooh-Bah (2,041) Aug 18, 2012 New York
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    While I’ve got no problem with them opening in DC, I do wish they had first focused on getting their beer out in kegs to areas outside immediate NYC. It is insanely rare for a keg of Other Half to wind up on tap at a bar/restaurant on Long Island. If I want OH, I have to drive 2 hrs on the fucking belt parkway or take a train into the City (and then find a bar that actually has them on tap; it is not as widespread as one would think).

    A lot of people in NJ/Westchester/LI support OH but have to travel to the brewery to acquire/taste their beer. I think it would be more beneficial to send their beer out to accounts in these areas before establishing a brewery in a whole new market, IMO.
     
  20. rozzom

    rozzom Pooh-Bah (2,620) Jan 22, 2011 New York
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    From a purely personal/selfish standpoint I’d prefer they didn’t open other locations.

    Even with an epic level of attention to detail it’s going to be hard not to water down the brand. With the single location they could have kept themselves cutting edge for longer - while capping their upside in the process.

    But if i owned OH I would absolutely do what they’re doing
     
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