Weedkiller found in "popular" beer brands

Keep drinking the Kool Aide

 

What Kool Aid are you referring to? That classless, over-used Jonestown reference? I'm open to criticism but please let that old saying die already.

 

What does getting cancer have to do with IP protections?

 

Glyphosate would be one. There is plenty of evidence that it is not safe for animals. here is one article you might be interested in
http://ecofarmingdaily.com/glyphosate-a-toxic-legacy/

 

Name already taken!!

http://www.fetchinglabbrewery.com/beer/

 

I think the bigger concern for mexican cannabis has historically been the paraquat kindly delivered from the sky by the US government. Their goal was to kill the plants but mostly they just made it toxic. The reason mexican weed has historically been low grade has more to do with the traditional sun drying method combined with the abuse it endures to prep it for international smuggling combined with the use of landrace strains that don't produce the effects US smokers are accustomed to.

Claiming they are spraying their plants with windex or ammonia is pretty ridiculous, why on earth would these agricultural communities use random household products when they all have all kinds of pesticides/herbicides/fungicides readily available?

 

I can't disagree with the first part of your comment so I'll leave that out of this.

I should clarify a bit, the farmers are not necessarily spraying the plants with said products but the (hopefully) dried flowers before being minced, smashed and formed into a "brick". The mentality is that it gives the flowers a "sticky" consistency instead of a shitty dried oregano type consistency. The solution that the brick is sprayed with obviously varies. Sometimes it's just sugar water, sometimes it's whatever they can get their hands on. I've also read that the ammonia smell can be "naturally" occuring because the herb wasn't dried enough before being smashed into the brick form resulting in a nasty odor. Anyway, that last part is up for debate but my whole point is that the garbage herb smuggled over the border isn't very good for you. Hope we can agree on that part at least.

Source: lived in Tucson for 3 years and know some people in the industry....there are also some stupid threads in various forums about this very subject I wouldn't trust them either.

 

We can definitely agree on that point, I would strongly advise against consuming mysterious intoxicants smuggled to you by unscrupulous individuals. I recommend that you obtain all of your favorite intoxicants from reliable local producers

 

The locadope movement!

 

Don't worry, Scott Pruit and the EPA will clean up this unsavory practice...

 

So what? I'm sure our food and drink and contaminated with all kinds of shit, and I mean that literally. So if there's 1/1,000,000% of it in my beer ... Again so what? It's certinly not at anything even remotely related to harmful levels or I'd be dead a long time ago. Just a story that sounds sensational but it's not, I don't get alarmed over microscopic trace elements, if that bothers you your in serious trouble. I'd suppose if it doesn't come from a lab anything you care to name is contaminated to a ridiculously low degree.

Let me add that Icebergs produce the purest form of water on earth, it's virtually free from everything being ice locked for eons. Iceberg Vodka markets the use of the water, so I'm correcting myself a bit.

 

My brother in law is a chemist/salesman who once told me that he could safely eat roundup. I knew he was full of baloney. I asked him again recently if he would eat roundup as he had suggested years ago. He said he wouldn't do it now. He works for a mega corporation out of India that is very curious about its devotion to public health, land rights, and much more. He is a very smart guy who opted for stock options and cashed it quite nicely. He sees things through a lens that always prefers a newer and better chemical solution...This is a very complicated world. I'm a simple fucker....

 

It occurs to me that most folks are missing the point of the story. It wasn't to tell you that your beer is dangerously contaminated with poison, it was to indicate that this poison is pervasive. Even showing up in a heavily treated product like beer that is pretty far removed from the agricultural field where the poison was applied.
I'm sure no ones opinion changes with that thought but just thought I'd throw it out there.

 

Actually, beer isn't that far removed from the agricultural field. The article states that Roundup is often applied directly to the barley (and other grains) to aid with its harvest. After harvest, the barley is then malted for use in brewing.

I'm not sure how that makes it 'pretty far removed.' I'm not saying this to sway anyone either, just to point out that grains used in brewing aren't far removed from the fields at all, and it shouldn't really be a surprise that the chemical is found in beer given its use in the harvesting of brewing grains.

 

People arguing that this doesn't matter baffle me

 

Then the article has created an erroneous or misleading impression. (Which is not unheard of in articles from certain sources regardless of which side of an issue they come down on.)

Malting barley in the US, which is what is used in beer, as you recognize, is treated differently.

First, there is no GMO malting barley grown in the US and Roundup is intended for use with GMO crops.

Second, Roundup, if it is used at all, can only be used with malting barley before heading of the grain and not at after that. So in there is to be no harvest time application. In the US this is a contractual obligation agreed to between the growers and the Malting Barley Association.

https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/...-and-Grains-Supply-Chain-Quality_Manual-1.pdf

 

Thanks for the corrections.

If this is the case in certain instances, it strengthens my ultimate point that the ingredient(s) in beer aren't far removed from the field at all, and we shouldn't be surprised that the substance is found in beer. The article states that "Glyphosate herbicides do not dry, wash or cook off..." So, regardless of when the application takes place, at least some of the glyphosate is likely to remain. Another point is that herbicides can, and do, remain in soil long after application takes place. This isn't just specific to round-up.

I will emphasize that I'm not advocating the use of round-up nor am I saying it's not bad for us. I'm merely trying to say that I don't think it should be as surprising that it's found in our beer as what the article, and other posters, are suggesting.

 

Some remain? Yes but not on the grain that is harvested since it is never directly applied. So it’s presence has to be indirect rather from direct application.

 

Directly applied, roundup would kill barley- and most all plants, I think- very quickly. I think the residual effect of roundup is what spooks people the most anyway. I think the jury is still out and the prevalence of this very effective weed killer is pretty scary. It is literally everywhere. I only spot use it on poison ivy and feel bad about it.

 

Except for those genetically engineered to tolerate it. ...

PETPI?