AB-InBev event with 'craft' beer available

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by HopsAreDaMan, Sep 17, 2018.

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  1. DISKORD

    DISKORD Initiate (0) Feb 28, 2017 South Carolina

    I hear you! That's some bs I don't agree with either. Especially when those beers are unfiltered IPAs, not barrel-aged beer.
     
  2. HopsAreDaMan

    HopsAreDaMan Initiate (0) Jul 28, 2015 Missouri

    Ah, speculation.

    Some booths seemed to by run by AB-InBev staff, some not (there was one booth that only poured lagers, if I remember correctly). The people working at the breweries booths seemed to be run by employees of the breweries. I based that more on anecdotal evidence then by actually asking each employee at each booth. My rough estimate is that there were 15 - 20 booths, some being only, for example, Michelob Lite, Bud lite, etc. Each booth was staffed by roughly 2 - 5 people. I remember that all the employees staffing the booths of the different breweries (at least the ones I saw) had shirts indicating the brewery they represented.

    If
    , they were only local AB-InBev employees, with little to no knowledge of the beer they were serving, as you seem to suggest is possible, then I judge that would be something along the lines of false advertising (perhaps not quite, but even then still very close to it). But, my experience leads me to believe many (if not all) of the employees were from the breweries they were representing. For example, while I was waiting in line in at least two booths I overheard various conversations where the employees sounded like they had specific knowledge of the brewery (they used 'we' when speaking about the brewery, for example). That certainly doesn't mean they all were, but at least some seemed to be.

    Kindly let me be the final judge on the kind of meaning connections I am looking for, and how to find them. I realize I gave one or two examples, yet, your definition will still be at least a little different than what you think mine is, as all of ours is a little bit different. : - )

    Thank you for your reply, and for pushing me to provide a little more detail.
     
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  3. HopsAreDaMan

    HopsAreDaMan Initiate (0) Jul 28, 2015 Missouri

    I totally agree. That is one of the reasons I brought it up. Staying hydrated is key to an enjoyable experience for me. When I go out to the bar/taproom, I often ask the waiter/waitress to bring a pitcher of water for me so I can more easily stay hydrated.
     
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  4. HopsAreDaMan

    HopsAreDaMan Initiate (0) Jul 28, 2015 Missouri

    I don't see myself as praising AB-InBev, if that is what you are implying. I judge I am honest about my experiences. My want is to present any information as close to reality as I can (at least as far as I remember it), even if you or someone else choose to see it as 'praising' the big guy, the bad guy, or ... the ugly guy (I couldn't help putting that little movie reference in there), or whatever it is you judge about AB-InBev.

    I believe the pursuit of facts and the truth to be more important that simply spouting the party line, which is oftentimes based on little to no facts. Fact checking anyone? : P

    Honestly, for a number of reasons--which I will not go into here, I don't like a number of things about how they do business. However, I also want to be aware of the facts, and report them honestly--especially while looking at something I know I have a bias towards. When I criticize, my goal is to make sure to see something good in what I am criticizing. If I can't do that, then I need to back up and re-evaluate what I am doing. I am not talking specifically about you when I say this: I personally don't trust in the criticism of others (i.e. leaders in their field of study, especially leading civil servants) that only spout negativity and continually blame others without taking responsibility for their own impact and without being able to see some good in what it is that they are criticizing.

    Believe it our not, I think AB-InBev is doing good things by exposing the general public to better beer. It is very similar to argument when Teavana dominated tea here in the US. Many people didn't like their methods of selling tea (I know I didn't), yet numerous people on a tea website I chatted on admitted that if it weren't for Teavana, they way never have gotten into drinking loose leaf tea, such that they eventually branched out to buying tea from many different vendors other than Teavana.

    Yeah, AB-InBev is clearly the Goliath in the beer game (at least in the US), but if you look with open eyes, you may see that even Goliath can do a few good things for everyone.
     
  5. EvenMoreJesus

    EvenMoreJesus Initiate (0) Jun 8, 2017 Pennsylvania

    Would you act any differently for a fistful of dollars? How about for a few dollars more?
     
  6. bubseymour

    bubseymour Grand Pooh-Bah (4,800) Oct 30, 2010 Maryland
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    ...."Buzzards gotta eat, Same as Worms"
     
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  7. EvenMoreJesus

    EvenMoreJesus Initiate (0) Jun 8, 2017 Pennsylvania

    Probably my favorite trilogy of all time.
     
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  8. HopsAreDaMan

    HopsAreDaMan Initiate (0) Jul 28, 2015 Missouri

    Love it. That one's a new one for me.

    How about this one (Clint actually sings in it) : "Beers to you!"

    One of my favorite Clint movies, partially because he sings, is Paint Your Wagon, but I wanted to find something beer related.
     
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  9. rgordon

    rgordon Pooh-Bah (2,701) Apr 26, 2012 North Carolina
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    That relates directly to the depth of the pockets. But it surely is a nice self-centered gesture, and that is to their credit. It is good to see that folks new to craftish beer can try a few. I'll bet they even had a new souped up version of their Shock Top car their in St. Louis!. I battled against the Bud guys for years, and won most of my battles, but many of them are still my friends. There are exceptions. It is a real life version of the good old boy system and a powerful group that "pays" legislators with strong donations.
     
  10. bubseymour

    bubseymour Grand Pooh-Bah (4,800) Oct 30, 2010 Maryland
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    Clint's westerns are all pretty awesome but yet the Spaghetti Western trilogy is the best. FYI...my quote is from Outlaw Josey Wales but who's counting.

    Gran Torino may have the best/most one-lines packed into Clint's long career though. Hilarious stuff there....nothing even close to politically correct either. Surprised that movie isn't banned these days the way society is going.
     
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  11. mrmattosgood

    mrmattosgood Maven (1,301) Nov 6, 2010 Canada (BC)

    I'd venture a strong guess that the people who work at the AB-InBev facility in St. Louis actually live in St. Louis. Sure, they're an international entity, the people who were handing out beer at a free event for families live in the area. The brewers do too. They certainly do give a shit about the community.

    "Luring people in?" Come on. You sound like the scare-tactician health teacher warning kids of those shady drug dealers luring kids and giving them free drugs to "get them hooked."
     
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  12. EvenMoreJesus

    EvenMoreJesus Initiate (0) Jun 8, 2017 Pennsylvania

    High Plains Drifter and Hang 'em High were great, too, but, yeah, there's nothing like the Sergio Leone stuff.

    Great movie to be sure. Similar character to his in Million Dollar Baby, IMO.

    Can wait until PC goes out of vogue. Everyone being offended by everything is getting really fucking old, real fucking quick.
     
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  13. EvenMoreJesus

    EvenMoreJesus Initiate (0) Jun 8, 2017 Pennsylvania

    "Tell 'em CRACK IS WACK!" :rolling_eyes:
     
  14. mrmattosgood

    mrmattosgood Maven (1,301) Nov 6, 2010 Canada (BC)

    This is the #1 criticism and it's the most powerful one, in my opinion. I just hope all of the BA's who rail against AB's campaign donations to get favorable legislation also do so w/r/t to the NRA doing the same thing to make sure their precious children-killing machines stay in production.
     
  15. mrmattosgood

    mrmattosgood Maven (1,301) Nov 6, 2010 Canada (BC)

    You get right up in their face and say, "No, I don't want your Budweiser! Because I care about my grades and my future!"
     
  16. EvenMoreJesus

    EvenMoreJesus Initiate (0) Jun 8, 2017 Pennsylvania

    Not sure that's an apt comparison.
     
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  17. mrmattosgood

    mrmattosgood Maven (1,301) Nov 6, 2010 Canada (BC)

    But why not?

    One of the criticisms is that AB will give $$ to politicians who in turn will create favorable legislation; The NRA gives $$ to politicians who in turns will create favorable legislation. One tries to put competing businesses in the ground, the other allows innocent people to be put in the ground.
     
  18. FatBoyGotSwagger

    FatBoyGotSwagger Grand Pooh-Bah (3,999) Apr 4, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    That's so 1980s. The slogan for today's youth is "There is no hope in dope" then call weed dope to confuse them watch the end result. :wink:
     
  19. rgordon

    rgordon Pooh-Bah (2,701) Apr 26, 2012 North Carolina
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    Yeah, I agree. I'm a natural born genetic smart ass and I piss people off all of the time. Nothing has or ever will stop me from quipping how I might.....I genuinely say what strikes me as apt. Liberals and conservatives both fall prey to their limits of understanding. We live in very interesting times that, I think, requires reading more and more of the history of what got us to this point.....
     
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  20. EvenMoreJesus

    EvenMoreJesus Initiate (0) Jun 8, 2017 Pennsylvania

    I guess I just don't find ABI to be as insidious as the NRA.
     
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