Trade Value Thread (TVT) Quarter 4 2018

Discussion in 'Trade Talk' started by blkhawk14, Oct 2, 2018.

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  1. Curedmeatncheese

    Curedmeatncheese Initiate (0) Aug 9, 2016 Massachusetts

    I think you are pretty damn close. I think it’s a nice offer.
     
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  2. jheimbigner

    jheimbigner Maven (1,342) Apr 18, 2015 Washington
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    Would a BA Dorothy B2 get me to a 2018 MS variant or ADWTD DO?
     
  3. dranthony2012

    dranthony2012 Zealot (698) Dec 12, 2013 California
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    Haven’t traded for lambic in awhile and I’m looking for a bottle of Nath. I have bottle logic paisley cave for trade. Since it’s a first time release and was considered to be the best beer by many at week of logic, it’s hard to put a value on it. It could be anywhere as low as FOb4 or as high as FOb3/Number Crunch. Assuming it’s FOb4 or b3 level....what ratio are we looking at? I stopped trading before Nath was released so I’m not so sure how high Nath is trading.
     
  4. putonyourwalkingshoes

    putonyourwalkingshoes Pooh-Bah (1,574) Jul 31, 2013 California
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    You wont know until a few weeks after bottles have made their way through circulation. Either way BL has been churning out way too much beer recently and while I agree that this was a great WOL beer, the fact that it has blueberries in it does the trade value a great disservice. I personally loved this more than JTR but ended up not picking up bottles. It's no FO.
     
  5. santig0nzalez

    santig0nzalez Devotee (338) Mar 28, 2016 Paraguay
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    I have a Fou 17 to trade,
    Which of this I would be aviable to get with a trade 1:1?
    - MD b4 or b5
    - IGCCS or BAIGCCS
    - Westly
    - IWAAD
    - DDG
     
  6. TylerJ

    TylerJ Savant (1,003) Apr 10, 2016 Iowa
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    These are my guesses on that:

    - MD b4 (Probably, but this batch wasn't very good, you could get 2 Morning Woods which is thinner but much better in flavor) or b5 (Close, but may need a small plus)
    - IGCCS (Yes, maybe even small plus on AC side) or BAIGCCS (No)
    - Westly (No)
    - IWAAD (No)
    - DDG (Yes, assuming 2016)
     
  7. Sabtos

    Sabtos Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,920) Dec 15, 2015 Ohio
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    Holy shit wow! Do not listen to this insanity @santig0nzalez . b4 was excellent, and Morning Wood, while tasty, is a far cry from MDb4 in every regard.
     
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  8. TylerJ

    TylerJ Savant (1,003) Apr 10, 2016 Iowa
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    I mean it was a good beer for sure. But I tried it side-by-side with 2017 Morning Wood and thought MW was smoother and had better flavor. MW is pretty thin, and TG is always thick AF, but the MW had way more maple. I've also had MD B2 and B5. B2 was the most maple-forward beer I've ever had (after 3 years of aging), but B5 is much closer to that than B4. I also thought B4 was very dark fruit forward where B2 and B5 (and Morning Wood) were more chocolaty which to me, works better with the maple and coffee.
     
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  9. Sabtos

    Sabtos Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,920) Dec 15, 2015 Ohio
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    I mean that's cool and all but you literally said "this batch wasn't very good" which is disingenuous, at the very least. It was very good. How much did you have? A 2oz pour? I've had multiple full bottles and multiple pours on draft, of multiple vintages. b4 was a huge step up from the previous years. It's far from "not very good" and also a completely different beer from Morning Wood. Our palates are personal experiences obviously but MW just doesn't even compare to MD for me, what with it giving off cola elements here and there.

    Additionally, most people aren't looking for something with "way more maple" than MD, once it gets to that point it becomes cloyingly artificial tasting, if not blatantly so. Along with the thicker body, the smokiness of MD's maple is what makes it, and there's an insane amount of maple flavor in that as it is.
     
  10. TylerJ

    TylerJ Savant (1,003) Apr 10, 2016 Iowa
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    The MD b4 and the most recent time I had MW (17) were both in bottles and split 3 ways. I guess "not very good" was more in relation to other batches I've had and MW. It is still a very good beer. I've had MW several times and have never gotten that "cola" element you're talking about. And yeah, not everyone is necessarily looking for more maple, and I do agree that the maple smokiness in MD is unique. The bottle of B2 I had was split between me and a friend back in July so we both had basically a full pour. Again, I think what made me like MW more than B4 was the dark fruits in the base in B4. The dark fruit-forward base in this year's Assassin was amazing, but maybe I just didn't like that with the maple and coffee as much as the more chocolaty base in MW (and MD b2).
     
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  11. jhavs

    jhavs Grand Pooh-Bah (3,587) Apr 16, 2015 New York
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    How many of these would be needed for a Maman 18?

    Aaron B3, Aaron B4, BgE, Florence Puncheon, Arthur Puncheon
     
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  12. santig0nzalez

    santig0nzalez Devotee (338) Mar 28, 2016 Paraguay
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    Thanks for the reply.
    Do you think I can trade Fou17 for MDb4/b5?
     
  13. santig0nzalez

    santig0nzalez Devotee (338) Mar 28, 2016 Paraguay
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    Thank you!
     
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  14. Sabtos

    Sabtos Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,920) Dec 15, 2015 Ohio
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    Yes aside from his tasting notes I agree with how @TylerJ assessed your FTs against your ISOs
     
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  15. David55555

    David55555 Initiate (0) Jan 20, 2017 Texas
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    So I'm trying to figure out the value of a '16 Handjee. What's the valuation VR wise?
     
  16. Curedmeatncheese

    Curedmeatncheese Initiate (0) Aug 9, 2016 Massachusetts

    About 6
     
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  17. BFresh84

    BFresh84 Initiate (0) Jan 28, 2010 Colorado

    Looking for value of 10/2015 Pretty Things Babayaga in terms of Cantillon
     
  18. blkhawk14

    blkhawk14 Initiate (0) Nov 14, 2014 Minnesota
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    is it seriously that high? Dang, was thinking it was closer to 3.5-4
     
  19. Beer_Economicus

    Beer_Economicus Pooh-Bah (2,698) Apr 8, 2017 Ohio
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    Me too
     
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  20. David55555

    David55555 Initiate (0) Jan 20, 2017 Texas
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    I would think it would be higher since there are less in the wild now. As time goes by, the most sought after Handjee would only go up in value, right?
     
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