Let's show some love for Sandy ravaged Six Point brewery

I love Sixpoint Beers, my fav in NYC area!! Would love to have an excuse to buy more of their brew.

 

Barrier Brewing got seriously obliterated in the storm. Check out the photo here:

http://brewyorknewyork.com/post/34769837618/new-york-breweries-face-damage-after-sandy (not my site)

 

I also am not a fan of breweries which brew the (pun intended) lion's share of their beer in a different state and brewery and don't list that fact on their cans/bottles. AFAIK Sixpoint is the only brewery to do this.

Resin was a very good beer, the rest I've tried are solidly above average, and Bengali Tiger is like a less well made imitation of the great beer it was back in the day.

Hope their insurance can help them and they get back running pretty quick. I guess it's lucky their main revenue stream was unaffected.

 

Bummer of an article...hope they all recover quickly.

 

While not exactly the same, doesn't the Latrobe Brewing Co. brew its beer in NJ, yet only lists St. Louis, MO. on its bottles? I'm not sure, as I don't know that I've had any since it was actually a PA beer.

I don't mean to take away for the Sandy/SixPoint topic, and yes, Six Point does seem to hide this brewing relationship. But you really seem to have a problem with it while supporting what many to think as a much bigger evil.

 

"Latrobe Brewing Co." is merely a dba name used by Anheuser-Busch, Inc. which bought that name and the Rolling Rock brand in 2006. Most of the "macro" sized multi-site brewing companies in the US often list only their corporate brewery headquarters' cities rather than actual brewery(ies) on their labels.

Most AB brands will say "St. Louis", Miller's > "Milwaukee", Coors' > "Golden", etc. and its the coding on the labels that reveals the actual brewing site (and the coding can be found on their websites). Ditto for Yuengling's labels, which do not list Tampa (last I checked) even though a large percentage of their production must be coming from that 1.5m bbl. capacity brewery.

Contract-brewed Pabst - and many of their other brands like Old Milwaukee, Ballantine, etc.- will say "Milwaukee, WI" (where Miller's headquarter brewery is as luck would have it, even tho' Pabst moved out of Milwaukee in the '90's) even when the beers are brewed at other MC facilities. Pabst, interestingly, uses the actual brewery city when it enhances the "local" image of a beer - both Pearl and Lone Star list "Ft. Worth, TX", location of Miller's Texas brewery. I imagine the same is probably true for West Coast brands like Rainier and Olympia and list a western MC city (Irwindale, CA, for instance).

But "Cavedave" is right that it's unusual for craft brewers to use the TTB's loophole, even when they could (say, BBC in theory could legally list only Boston, rather than also Cincinnati and Breningsville, PA).

 

Well, if you mean by supporting that I buy their products, well, the only ABI products I buy are BCBS. Before they took over GI I drank 0 of their products, but it wasn't because of their tactics it was because of their taste. If they mess with BCBS it will be back to 0 again. IMHO they use the same legal tactics as every publicly traded multi national mega corporation, and I have no problem with capitalism, I am a Libertarian.

Personally I believe these anti ABI folks should be protesting Goldman Sachs and AIG and BOA, for they are crooks and thieves destroying laissez faire and our way of life, but that's just me.

As far as Sixpoint I try every one of their beers, had some Resin yday in fact, and as a small brewery whose reputation is based on being a NY beer brewer it rankles that they brew almost every bit of their beer in Pa., and that Shane Welch had to be dragged kicking and screaming on this very forum to admit it.

 

Yes, I know. Perhaps I should have used some type of sarcasm emoticon. I guess my point is that ~craft brewer ABI gets a pass by some under the "as long as the beer tastes good" rationale. It does not matter where/how they brew, distribute, market, etc. Yet, a request to show some love for a small brewer ravaged by a hurricane and we should be concerned about where/how they brew and distribute their beer? Just struck me odd.

 

Yet, you seem bothered by a small brewer, also using legal tactics.

Maybe they do that on other sites. I thought this site is about beer (not sports, religion, etc)

I've never had Sixpoint, but I don't think that matters. You support a company who brews a beer with a PA reputation, in NJ, with MO labels. I can't say I've seen Carlos Brito in these forums explaining that.

 

I'm bothered by ABI also. I don't boycott either one based on anything other than how does the beer taste. I save my statements of outrage, and punitive boycotts, for things actually illegal, and with bad consequences that are observable (unlike the ABI foolishness). And ABI doesn't deny they use those tactics they use, but Sixpoint does. But don't let me stop you from trying to twist this around

 

Got it. You want to point out that you're not a fan of Sixpoint, but you're a fan of good old honest Made In America ABI. Wink

 

I'm a fan of good beer and not a fan of trading on the name of NY to sell beer made in Pa. I save my outrage/boycotts for things that are actually causing harm. If that is what you were trying to say we agree.

 

I think that the beers that are brewed by Sixpoint in their Brooklyn Brewery are quality beers. The beers that are brewed at Lion Brewery are the beers that are available in cans (and the draft versions of those beers). I personally think that the Sixpoint beers brewed at Lion Brewery are of lower quality. I still purchase Sixpoint beers that are brewed in Brooklyn (e.g., Spice of Life IPAs, etc.) when I see them at local beer bars. I refuse to buy canned Sixpoint Beers and the draft versions of these beers.

There was a great article in the Oct./Nov. 2012 Ale Street News about the soon to be opened Two Roads Brewing Company (Stratford, CT) which was built to be a quality contract brewery (Head brewer Phil Markowski formally of Southampton Brewery). I really, really hope that Sixpoint switches their contract brewing to Two Roads when it opens.

Cheers!

 

What I am saying is that your outrage toward Sixpoint (your initial post in this thread is at least mild outrage. Else, why bring it up in reply to the OP's sentiment about Sandy?) seems inconsistent with your support of ABI. ABI trades on the name of many places where the beer is not made.

 

Well then there you go, I wasn't outraged at either beer company, that's your spin. I am outraged at financial criminals of other industries. I am bothered by ABI, and I don't like what Sixpoint does. You are mistaken, and I am glad we got that straightened out. It's tough to ascribe attitudes and emotions on line. Your mixup is understandable, and no apology is necessary.

 

For the hurricane you expressed support for ABI. Yet, you expressed your disapproval for Sixpoint just because someone asked to show concern for them. And you think I'm mixed up. Is that my apology you feel is not necessary, or yours?

 

Yes, I expressed thanks that ABI released more BCBS and made help available to Sandy victims. I also have expressed displeasure about their tactics, which have prevented the craft beer industry from growing faster than its current 13% annual growth, and have stifled the need for more craft breweries to have to expand rapidly or build completely new facilities. I expressed my hope that Sixpoint's insurance gets them up and running again quickly, and I buy Sixpoint beer regularly. Sorry if speaking truth about things on a forum upsets your sense of balance, obviously a delicate one, but those are the facts.

Again, no need for you to apologize for your mischaracterizations, but it is time to move on.

 

OK - please move on with your sense of the facts.

OP - I apologize for contributing to a discussion on the disapproval of SP's business practices. I don't believe that was your intention. Cheers and best wishes to those impacted by the hurricane.