Trade Value Thread (TVT) Quarter 4 2018

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  1. not2quick

    not2quick Grand Pooh-Bah (3,600) Dec 1, 2015 Missouri
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    I just recently tried DS and was very unimpressed. I've sent some nice offers in the past for a crowler, and now I'm glad I didn't land one. Seemed very thin and not super flavorful and didn't seem like a 11% beer. Perhaps it was an old crowler?
     
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  2. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
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    You had a crowler of it? Unless I'm mistaken, I think GN stopped doing crowlers of DS sometime ago. Since they started canning DS early last summer, I think they stopped doing crowlers of it.

    So yeah, you may absolutely have simply gotten an old crowler.
     
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  3. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
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    You're not the only one who feels that way. If you take a look at the GN thread in the NW forum, you'll see there are a lot of mixed feelings about this latest release, and a lot of it is pretty negative. Throwing the unwanted schwag into the mix (which really seems like a pretty blatant attempt to maximize profits for this release) has really rubbed a lot of people the wrong way.

    GN already has a bit of a reputation for charging high prices for their beer, and this latest little ploy isn't helping that reputation.
     
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  4. Slack

    Slack Pooh-Bah (2,018) Feb 14, 2012 Virginia
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    What’s a good ratio of BCBS Vanilla (2018) to Vanilla Rye?
     
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  5. Beer_Economicus

    Beer_Economicus Pooh-Bah (2,698) Apr 8, 2017 Ohio
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    Which side are you on?
     
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  6. RavageCat

    RavageCat Devotee (346) Jun 24, 2014 New Jersey
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    I'd guess 4 or 5 to 1 VR. With how much 2018 vanilla is out there though, might still be hard to close if you're on that side. If you're on the VR side, then shouldn't be too tough to close.
     
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  7. AyatollahGold

    AyatollahGold Initiate (0) Nov 28, 2016 Indiana

    I think this is right. I was going to say AT LEAST 4. But I think it would be really hard to achieve if you're not on the VR side.
     
  8. Beer_Economicus

    Beer_Economicus Pooh-Bah (2,698) Apr 8, 2017 Ohio
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    Since people jumped in already, I'll just get to it as well.

    If on the VR side, you can probably ask for 4 and close it pretty quick. Ask for less, instantly. Ask for 5, and it will probably take a full day. Ask for 6, and it might take awhile.

    Conversely, if you're ISO the VR, 4 would be a right set of eyes I think (not that hard to find, I wouldn't think), but it probably won't convince anyone to give up their bottle. Offering 5 I would think would induce some people to give theirs up. Might take a couple postings, or maybe just a single.
     
  9. Sabtos

    Sabtos Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,920) Dec 15, 2015 Ohio
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    Yeah if someone has VR on hand but not vanilla, they didn't even try, like at all.
     
  10. Sandis

    Sandis Savant (1,064) Jun 18, 2018 Minnesota
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    Hey all. So, if a guy was contemplating trading his KBBS for a BBT B1, Nillerzzz and '18 BC reserve would he be getting the short end of the deal? Asking for a friend. :wink:

    Thanks,
     
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  11. Coronaeus

    Coronaeus Grand Pooh-Bah (3,744) Apr 21, 2014 Canada (ON)
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    Thoughts on this:

    2017 Utopias
    2017 Cycle Rare Dos DB

    For

    2018 BL Paisley Cave Complex
    2018 BL Red Rover
    2018 BC Bramble Rye
    2017 Avery Tweak

    Keep in mind that Utopias goes for about US$85 up here and none of the other bottles are available locally.

    Thanks.
     
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  12. croush

    croush Pooh-Bah (2,407) Mar 20, 2015 Illinois
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    It seems to be a pretty even trade from what I've seen.
     
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  13. OakvilleKGB

    OakvilleKGB Zealot (510) Dec 3, 2015 Missouri
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    I disagree with this 100%...VR has been available for 4+ years now and has been released multiple times through that length whereas 2018 Vanilla has been available for less than a month. I have personally come across a few VR over the years and only ended up with 1 bottle of 2018 Vanilla from the 10+ stores I went to.
     
  14. OakvilleKGB

    OakvilleKGB Zealot (510) Dec 3, 2015 Missouri
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    How are you getting Utopias at 57.5% off?
    I thought retail was $200 and that's the only price I have ever seen it sold for.
     
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  15. Sabtos

    Sabtos Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,920) Dec 15, 2015 Ohio
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    We were swimming in Vanilla over here and most people that didn't think they could get it were putting up ISOs frequently prior to. And still, most of those people got their own Vanilla on Black Friday anyway.

    But wait...are you in possessions of a VR and needing a few Vanilla? That's an easy one for me...especially if you're pumping up the value of Vanilla like that as if it was scarce.
     
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  16. Coronaeus

    Coronaeus Grand Pooh-Bah (3,744) Apr 21, 2014 Canada (ON)
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    Utopias has been ~C$110 for the 2015 and 2017 releases up here. I don’t know why it is so much cheaper. I assume it’s because the LCBO has huge buying power.
     
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  17. ECOBOOSTINST

    ECOBOOSTINST Savant (1,026) Jul 7, 2016 Iowa
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    I would love to try Utopias for that price!!!! Holy Cow!!!
     
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  18. Thirst_trappist

    Thirst_trappist Maven (1,420) Jan 18, 2016 Florida
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    The thing is. Vr value is established enough.... That even this thread uses VR units as denomination for value
     
  19. OakvilleKGB

    OakvilleKGB Zealot (510) Dec 3, 2015 Missouri
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    I understand that, my response was to Sabtos:
    I tried to get as many as I could because I had heard great things about it and it being compared to VR but only found 1 bottle.

    I am no longer in possession of a VR, opened it for my niece's birth. I am not saying that vanilla is scarce but living in St. Louis, MO it was not was as easy as you are making it is all that I am saying.
     
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  20. Fermented-nate

    Fermented-nate Zealot (649) Sep 15, 2013 California
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    2018 Transient Kentuckley + FO b4 for Horus Proper Dose? Maybe the Proper Dose side adds a bit? Feedback much appreciated!
     
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