Trade Value Thread (TVT) Quarter 4 2018

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  1. Sabtos

    Sabtos Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,920) Dec 15, 2015 Ohio
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    Really? I wonder why they would choose to make this absurd a beer be their first experiment in barrel aging...think you'd start with some smaller, simpler sample sizes first. Barrel aging can result in all sorts of hilarious and freakish disasters, ugly or beautiful.
     
    #581 Sabtos, Dec 18, 2018
  2. Thirst_trappist

    Thirst_trappist Maven (1,420) Jan 18, 2016 Florida
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    IdI imagine those who traded it pre release on hype for bigger stuff.... Got their laughs in

    While the rest got in late and trying hard to off load. Haha
     
    #582 Thirst_trappist, Dec 18, 2018
  3. imyourhero21

    imyourhero21 Maven (1,378) Oct 9, 2011 California
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    If i had a KBBS, id do this all day lol
     
    #583 imyourhero21, Dec 18, 2018
  4. eppie82

    eppie82 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,377) Apr 19, 2015 Illinois
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    I don't think you're far off (may need a smaller plus on your end), but it seems like people are holding on to Assassin '18 and packaging them up with something else in order to get something bigger than Assassin '18 caliber beers. But all in all, I don't think you're far off.
     
    #584 eppie82, Dec 18, 2018
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  5. dscott421

    dscott421 Crusader (459) Jun 13, 2013 Kentucky
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    Midnight Still Hazelnut for VR? Simple 1:1?
     
    #585 dscott421, Dec 18, 2018
  6. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
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    I guess they didn't think of that (or were unaware that could happen).

    Not that I'm an expert on the subject, but I remember being a bit surprised when they announced (some months ago) that they had taken a batch of their regular DS and were aging it in a bourbon barrel to see what would happen.

    Fremont Brewing is pretty much the resident expert in our region when it comes to barrel aging stouts. I had the opportunity to talk to the owner about their barrel aging program a couple years back, which was fascinating. One of the things he mentioned, is that they've learned over the years that you really don't want to use the base beer recipe when making a BA stout. For instance, they found that it was necessary to tweak their dark star recipe when making barrel aged dark star, in order to get the most out of the recipe. For that matter, even the barrel aged beer recipes are tweaked a bit when making different variants in order to let the adjunct flavor shine (coffee, cinnamon and coconut for example).

    Just my two cents and humble opinion, but it might not have been a bad idea for the folks at GN to talk to someone over at Fremont or Deschutes before trying to make a BA stout. For all I know, maybe that's what they did, but it wasn't obvious based on the beer I tried over at the brewpub yesterday.
     
    #586 John_M, Dec 18, 2018
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  7. AyatollahGold

    AyatollahGold Initiate (0) Nov 28, 2016 Indiana

    Founders has talked about this too. When they first did KBS, they just barrel aged breakfast stout and said it didn't work at all. So they had to heavily beef up the recipe to barrel age it.

    I've heard the same about Goose Island too and how the base for Bourbon county is pretty much an "undrinkable stout" made just for barrel aging.
     
    #587 AyatollahGold, Dec 18, 2018
  8. Thirst_trappist

    Thirst_trappist Maven (1,420) Jan 18, 2016 Florida
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    Interesting.... This would possibly explain why when a local brewery barrel aged their tasty milk stout .... It was not so good lol
     
    #588 Thirst_trappist, Dec 18, 2018
  9. putonyourwalkingshoes

    putonyourwalkingshoes Pooh-Bah (1,574) Jul 31, 2013 California
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    Dont think you're out of your element that year was 2009 if I'm not mistaken. Could be hard to find one in the wild. I've got a b2 if I can wrestle that maman away from you
     
    #589 putonyourwalkingshoes, Dec 18, 2018
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  10. Bobloblawlawblog11

    Bobloblawlawblog11 Zealot (642) Oct 30, 2014 Minnesota
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    What does kuhnhenn raspberry eisbock go for? Literally 0 concept on what to throw out to land a bottle or 2
     
    #590 Bobloblawlawblog11, Dec 19, 2018
  11. ktr5010

    ktr5010 Savant (1,028) Dec 12, 2014 Illinois
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    Looking to get another Transient Kentuckley. Would an 18 BCS Vanilla go 1:1? I'm thinking there might need to be a plus on the BCS side.
     
    #591 ktr5010, Dec 19, 2018
  12. AyatollahGold

    AyatollahGold Initiate (0) Nov 28, 2016 Indiana

    I would say a plus on the BCS side. One about half a BCBSV, maybe more would be my guess.
     
    #592 AyatollahGold, Dec 19, 2018
  13. Grandy33

    Grandy33 Aspirant (286) Aug 15, 2017 Missouri
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    Would D8 trade 1:1 for a bottle of SR-71 batch 1 or would someone need to add a plus?
     
    #593 Grandy33, Dec 19, 2018
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  14. odcardinal

    odcardinal Zealot (690) Apr 12, 2015 Florida
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    I think you’re close. I just had a hell of a time chasing a SR b1. They don’t trade anymore. Not sure if any big bottles exchange hands via trade. D8 was a delicious brew. GL OP!
     
    #594 odcardinal, Dec 20, 2018
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  15. lewith

    lewith Zealot (579) Jul 13, 2017 South Carolina
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    '17 Calvados Cake + '18 Maple Cake and Maple Coffee Cake for a BAA. Is this close?
     
    #595 lewith, Dec 20, 2018
  16. Sturgeon83

    Sturgeon83 Initiate (0) Mar 11, 2015 Kentucky
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    I went 1:1 on Reserve w/Kentuckley if that helps; incidentally, when I was looking to do Reserve+Vanilla for Kentuckley+Canuckley, I got crickets. So vanilla probably needs a plus.

    For the thread: disregarding whether it would actually happen or not, hypothetically, how many BC Reserve '18 would it take to pull a Orange Wax Assassin?
     
    #596 Sturgeon83, Dec 20, 2018
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  17. Hoppedelic

    Hoppedelic Savant (1,065) Dec 6, 2010 California
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    Would GTS ‘18 go 1:1 with any PVW? If so which one is a fair trade?
     
    #597 Hoppedelic, Dec 24, 2018
  18. MKE_Hopspur

    MKE_Hopspur Devotee (398) Mar 15, 2017 Wisconsin
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    Simple answer is no. The closest Van Winkle equivalent you would be able to 1:1 with is Old Rip. I know this is not Pappy but probably the closest you would get 1:1 of the VW collection.
     
    #598 MKE_Hopspur, Dec 24, 2018
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  19. Hoppedelic

    Hoppedelic Savant (1,065) Dec 6, 2010 California
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    That’s what I figured, thank you.
     
    #599 Hoppedelic, Dec 24, 2018
  20. sjguglielmo

    sjguglielmo Zealot (522) Aug 26, 2009 Minnesota
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    Yeah, for an actual Pappy you'd need quite a bit more. For a PVW 15, you'd need 2 GTS and probably a solid plus.
     
    #600 sjguglielmo, Dec 24, 2018
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