Do you like Trillium's new fermentation profile?

Discussion in 'New England' started by AlcahueteJ, Dec 29, 2018.

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Do you like Trillium’s New Fermentation Profile?

Poll closed Jan 26, 2019.
  1. Yes, the majority of their beers have improved

    3.3%
  2. No, all of their beers taste worse

    38.6%
  3. Their core beers are worse, but some of their newer offerings taste good

    56.9%
  4. Their core beers have improved, but I don’t like their newer beers

    1.3%
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  1. Capt_Quint

    Capt_Quint Pundit (762) May 29, 2015 Massachusetts
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    Hope you’re talking about the pils. If you think the IPAs look like urine you may want to head to the doctor.
     
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  2. soheadyithurts

    soheadyithurts Zealot (551) Jan 4, 2013 Massachusetts

    Of course I'm talking about the pils. The IPA look like burnt orange salad dressing
     
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  3. Mikecap

    Mikecap Pooh-Bah (2,098) May 18, 2012 Massachusetts
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    I thought about going back to try the pils, which is seemingly reasonably priced at $10 per 4-pack. That said, I'd rather give my money to Jack's Abby Post Shift for 32 more oz. at the same price. I know it's good too.
     
  4. soheadyithurts

    soheadyithurts Zealot (551) Jan 4, 2013 Massachusetts

    All day long on Post Shift & House Lager...

    It was hilarious to see someone on Instagram claiming the $10/4pk wasnt priced correctly and cheapens the brand because lagers take time to make.
     
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  5. MrEff

    MrEff Crusader (478) Mar 21, 2017 Massachusetts
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    sounds like someone has heard all those Sam Adams radio commercials about how inefficient it is to let lagers sit around for all that time...
     
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  6. AMW

    AMW Devotee (382) Jan 13, 2013 Massachusetts
    Trader

    More so, the pils aligns well with their new location with food offerings.
     
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  7. buccsmf1

    buccsmf1 Initiate (0) Aug 19, 2017 Florida

    Used to head over to fort point once a week, I've completely stopped since the change. No point in spending $5 per can for ddh sleeper when i can get julius/green for $3.80..... Their prices are insane and now that the quality has dipped there just isnt any point
     
  8. lbower860

    lbower860 Initiate (0) Jun 28, 2011 Connecticut

    Fascinating where we are with Tree House and Trillium right now. Both of these were breweries that 5 years ago, I would drop what I was doing and drive an hour+ if they had something I wanted. They are both doing exceedingly well and im happy for them. That being said, I dont seek out their IPAs anymore. To me, Fox Farm and Counterweight in my own state are currently producing more flavorful IPAs with better mouthfeel. I do get nostalgic about the early days of the NEIPA scene though.... Nothing lasts forever I guess... Alas
     
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  9. Piels25

    Piels25 Savant (1,034) Dec 17, 2013 Massachusetts
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    To that point, if I lived closer to Portsmouth I'd be spending far more time and $$$ at Stoneface. A strong core lineup, with some really good one-offs, at a far better price point. I'll take the food in their tasting room any day over the new Trillium restaurant, in many cases at less than half the cost.
     
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  10. Davl22

    Davl22 Maven (1,341) Sep 27, 2011 New Hampshire
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    It's all relative though. I live 5 minutes away from Stoneface and maybe grab cans from them a few times a year, but I'll drive 45min to Portland for Oxbow and Bissell. All make great beer, but the allure of hard to come across beer is strong I suppose.
     
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  11. Hiwattowner

    Hiwattowner Pooh-Bah (2,926) Feb 23, 2008 Massachusetts
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    I’m convinced that something has changed during the last month and a half or so. Mettle released shortly before Xmas, better than I think it ever has been. Recent DDH Sleeper - very good. Recent Scaled - a hell of a lot better than the first batch done after fermentation profile change. Recent Vicinity - better than, or as good as, the other batches over the last two or so years.

    Sweetness level down, thickness down.

    Will you like it? Who knows. Drink what you enjoy.
     
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  12. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Grand Pooh-Bah (3,242) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
    Society Pooh-Bah

    Interesting.

    Well the new Elm Street Tap Room has opened in Davis Square. I plan on swinging by and they have Trillium on draft, so I'm sure I'll get to try some.
     
  13. dogdrule

    dogdrule Initiate (0) Jan 11, 2018 Massachusetts

    I had Gather and Quiet Life back to back and they were both outstanding, but Gather was my personal fave. Honestly one of my top 3 favorite Pils coming out of NE right now
     
  14. Foamykeg

    Foamykeg Aspirant (252) Jan 24, 2013 Tennessee

    For all those iffy on the new fermentation profile, please give Permutation #75 a shot. It’s the house yeast mixed with belgian yeast, with some galaxy and other hops added in. It is absolutely delicious
     
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  15. StoutElk_92

    StoutElk_92 Grand Pooh-Bah (4,045) Oct 30, 2015 Massachusetts
    Pooh-Bah

    It is good and definitely nice and hoppy, but the Belgian yeast character is pretty prominent making it a unique style of IPA. While good I wouldn’t want to see this become regular. I honestly don’t enjoy the bubblegum flavor that people get in IPAs very much, that can also be found in a Belgian style yeast. It is probably my favorite Belgian IPA I’ve had yet, though a Belgian NEIPA, as others I’ve had weren’t as hoppy, fruity or juicy like the NE IPA style.
     
  16. dropkick1977

    dropkick1977 Initiate (0) Jan 4, 2016 New Hampshire
    Trader

    Hi neighbor. I am also within 10 minutes of Stoneface, Great Rhythm, Deciduous, etc. but if I'm "making a run" it'll be up to Barreled Souls or something. I guess they taste better after killing half a tank of gas? I don't know.

    More on topic, I have a hard time finding any Trillium IPA that doesn't firebomb my throat. Peach Supersoak was good, though.
     
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  17. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Grand Pooh-Bah (3,242) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    I've had Dialed Up on draft twice now, and Minot's Ledge. Both were excellent, especially Dialed Up.

    Definitely appears newer beers are benefiting from this new fermentation profile.

    Had a sip of my brothers Fort Point and that was just ok.
     
  18. kjlcm

    kjlcm Pundit (869) Jul 16, 2013 Colorado

    Not very knowledgeable in brewing technicalities. Could Trillium easily go back to the original fermenatation / yeast profile or have they morphed and can’t really go back?

    I think of the Coke debacle years back and how excited the whole country was when they realized they shouldn’t have messed with a good think to try to compete with Pepsi and came out with Coke classic.
     
  19. Sweatshirt

    Sweatshirt Initiate (0) Jan 27, 2014 New Hampshire

    They could easily change back. It's a matter of buying the yeast and backing off any changes they made since. I'm very sure this is all documented with SOPs and such for the Brewers there .
     
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  20. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Grand Pooh-Bah (3,242) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    I imagine they'll let the dust settle (if it hasn't already) from the wage debacle, and then revisit their sales for each beer. And then they'll adjust accordingly if necessary.

    Breweries probably do this all the time, but we never hear about it.

    For example, I've read on here that Sam Adams Winter Lager used to be upwards of 7%, and now it's slowly crept down to 5.3% ABV I believe.
     
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