Johnson Controller Woes

Discussion in 'Homebrewing' started by Grohnke, Nov 12, 2012.

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  1. Grohnke

    Grohnke Initiate (0) Sep 15, 2009 Illinois

    My reading this morning was 90F. It obviously wasnt actually 90 in my ferm fridge, so I unplugged everything, plugged it back it, and it read 70F (which was higher than my SP +diff, ugh). I've had it for about a year, and this is the first time I have seen anything like this. and well, it bummed me out.

    Has anyone experienced similar issues with their temp controller? Any solutions?
     
  2. mikehartigan

    mikehartigan Maven (1,421) Apr 9, 2007 Illinois

    Replace it with an analog controller. I've said this many times in the past. An analog temperature controller is one of the most elegantly low tech devices on the planet. And damn reliable. Why anybody would want to add digital electronics to it is beyond me. Way too many delicate parts to fail that can't be easily repaired/replaced by the average handyman.
     
  3. SABERG

    SABERG Grand Pooh-Bah (5,001) Sep 16, 2007 Massachusetts
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    Agreed, remote capillary tube,analog, bullet proof.
     
  4. JebediahScooter

    JebediahScooter Initiate (0) Sep 5, 2010 Vermont

    What about needing a dual stage controller to run both a heating and cooling function of a fermentation chamber?
     
  5. Grohnke

    Grohnke Initiate (0) Sep 15, 2009 Illinois

    think i might have to, now its reading 61 ?! im glad i have absolutely no idea what my porter is fermenting at........................................
     
  6. mikehartigan

    mikehartigan Maven (1,421) Apr 9, 2007 Illinois

    I didn't get that from the original post. But you could simply use two controllers - one for heating, one for cooling.
     
  7. JebediahScooter

    JebediahScooter Initiate (0) Sep 5, 2010 Vermont

    My question was in response to your query as to the motivations for anybody to use a digital controller. There are a ton of applications in brewing for which an analog controller isn't the best piece of equipment. I have one on the Keezer (Johnson analog) and a dual-stage Ranco to cool and heat my fermentation chamber. Currently investigating PIDs and whatnot for some level of automation (RIMS).
     
  8. mikehartigan

    mikehartigan Maven (1,421) Apr 9, 2007 Illinois

    My underlying point is that the perceived flexibility of a digital temperature controller for this application comes at a cost, namely reliability. The same functionality can be achieved with analog. There are applications where electronics bring benefits that make the cost worthwhile - car engines, for example. Temperature controllers are not one of those applications, IMO.

    That said, I love my Thermapen!
     
  9. LeeryLeprechaun

    LeeryLeprechaun Savant (1,094) Jan 30, 2011 Colorado
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    I have had the same problem. Except mine read 120 F and cooled my fridge down as cold as it could. The problem was that the temp control thermometer cord got pulled lose on the inside of the box. It was an easy fix. Just open it up and put the wire back into place (there are two little screws that hold the wire in). When you open it up you will see it is really easy to fix.
     
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  10. Grohnke

    Grohnke Initiate (0) Sep 15, 2009 Illinois

    thanks! ill check it out noe
     
  11. Grohnke

    Grohnke Initiate (0) Sep 15, 2009 Illinois

    hmm, i opened it up, and everything looks like its where it should be. are you talking about the two little white wires that come from the big grey probe cord? Obviously im electrically illiterate
     
  12. Grohnke

    Grohnke Initiate (0) Sep 15, 2009 Illinois

    well i removed those two wires, and reattached them...turned it on, and my standard error (CO3) did NOT show up when i turned it on. Maybe that worked! Unfortunately, my porter is on day 2 of fermentation at 61 degrees :-\
     
  13. LeeryLeprechaun

    LeeryLeprechaun Savant (1,094) Jan 30, 2011 Colorado
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    Glad you were able to fix it! Hopefully your beer is fine too.
     
  14. mcc1654

    mcc1654 Initiate (0) Mar 20, 2011 Illinois

    The thermapen is the best piece of brewing/cooking equipment I have ever purchased.
     
  15. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
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    61's not a bad place to be on a porter. With a few more degrees to fermemtation you're looking at like 63 or 64. You can ramp it up to around 68 or 70 now to finish it off.
     
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