Does bottle conditioning effect the ABV?

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  1. Ceddd99

    Ceddd99 Zealot (609) May 14, 2018 Michigan
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    I'm not exactly sure why it wouldn't because wouldn't the yeast continue to produce alcohol if it's still actively fermenting? But you never see the ABV on these beers labeled as approximate. If it does effect it, how much generally?
     
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    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,846) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    AFAIK, maybe a tiny bit. But most of the alcohol is produced during primary, which is where the yeast does its heavy lifting. Anything in secondary or bottle is mostly flavor. Once the sugars are gone, there's nothing left for the yeast to eat. Or, once the yeast is tired, it can't eat more sugar. YMMV.
     
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  3. Maestro0708

    Maestro0708 Initiate (0) Feb 27, 2015 Kentucky

    If by bottle conditioning you mean that carbonation is achieved through refermentation in the bottle, then the answer is yes.

    How much depends on how much sugar is added at bottling to achieve desired carbonation levels.
     
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  4. bbtkd

    bbtkd Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,790) Sep 20, 2015 South Dakota
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    For brett beers such as Orval that are expected to develop further in the bottle, they must give the brett some sugar to eat. Is the marked ABV just a ballpark target then?
     
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  5. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    There is a small increase in the abv due to refermentation for carbonation. If you open a bottle that is a gusher, then more sugar was added by the brewer than what was needed, although some beer styles have a high level of carbonation by design (just not to the level of being a gusher).

    The abv on the label is an estimate by the brewer of the correct number. The TTB recognizes that brewing is not an exact science and that batches can vary, so some latitude is given on what gets printed. I think it is +/- .2 or .3 points.

    I'm going to guess that a normal increase in the abv that is caused by the refermentation would be only like a 0.1 to 0.2 percentage point increase.
     
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    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    I think the Brett just eats the complex sugar that the normal yeast can't eat during the primary. I don't think additional sugar is added for the brett.
     
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  7. Ceddd99

    Ceddd99 Zealot (609) May 14, 2018 Michigan
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    Ok thanks guys I have more question on this topic. I have some bottles of Goose Island Matilda that is bottle conditioned. I am wondering if there is a difference between keeping them in the fridge vs keeping them at room temperature. Wouldn't the yeast be more active at room temperature since it is not a lager yeast?
     
  8. MostlyNorwegian

    MostlyNorwegian Pooh-Bah (2,236) Feb 5, 2013 Illinois
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    I don't suspect the difference will be anything worth making a note of because the gravity the brewery is looking for will have been consistent. I'd be more worried about a fruit infused beer than one which is bottle conditioned for a problem to be wary of.
     
  9. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    The yeast should have done their job within 2 weeks after bottling which likely has gone by before you purchase the bottle. So it doesn't matter whether you keep the bottle at room temp or chilled.

    However, that beer also benefits by maturing (also sometimes referred to as conditioning or aging) at cellar temp which is generally considered to be around 50 degrees.
     
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