Controversial Beer Opinions Thread

Rather depends on what sort of day you're expecting.

 

Um.

 

Where the hell is @EvenMoreJesus? Did he get banned? If so, what for? @Todd

 

Sarcasm intended but apparently not delivered

 

Check back on Easter Day (it's kinda traditional).

 

It's a good thing you're into beer, not comedy.

 

Re: flights - Several breweries around here have moved towards offering half pours or some other smaller pour that is still more than the standard 4 oz flight pour. I like this option a lot more because you get a better view of the beer and you can still sample 2 or 3 beers that way. And without a silly board.

 

1/2 pour is my favorite pour. My 2 favorite breweries do this. Not sure if it's a coincidence

 

I don't object to it as an option, of course (I'm not an English legislator), but I'd much prefer two 4 oz. pours of different beers to one 8 oz. pour, assuming only a small to moderate price premium, because I put a large emphasis on variety and frankly often get bored after a few ounces of many beers (especially bad to mediocre ones). If you pay close attention to a beer and are a veteran taster, you will experience very quickly diminishing returns in terms of understanding a beer (or wine, whisk(e)y, etc., in which 8 oz. would be considered an enormous pour). Let's just say BJCP judges don't drink by the pint (or half-pint) when judging. I appreciate when breweries and bars recognize that their customers have varying preferences for pour sizes and give them options instead of overriding their personal judgment calls.

 

Not a brewery but my favorite place to go has two sizes of glasses: 16oz and 9oz. Really big beers always been in the 9oz but the ability to order one or "shorties" of the other beers is awesome.

 

Will argue the fact with the Alchemists stuff

 

I too, often, argue wrong points.

 

Indeed, it seems you’re doing so right now. I can understand the opinion that NEIPAs are overdone, or not good, or whatever. But to say they all taste the same is just a bad take. It’s no more true than it would be to say that all pilsners or scotch ales or stouts taste the same. What makes NEIPAs special amongst beer styles that, in your view, make them taste identical notwithstanding the use of different malts, hops, yeasts, and flavor additions?

 

I think an attractive feature of hating on NEIPA is the ability to get folks upset by speaking negative opinions. Saying they all taste the same is like flat earthers saying the world is flat. They know Earth isn't really a thin, flat disc, but man is it fun to get a rise out of folks by saying it.

 

I guess. It seems to me lately that hating on NEIPAs is the anti-trend, trendy thing among certain BAs who want to appear too cool for the current mainstream craft beer trends. A bit like being “punk rock” in the 90s. And I couldn’t care less, by all means, hate away. But by saying something like, “they all taste the same,” all you’re really signaling to me is that your palate sucks.

 

I'm not sure how controversial this is, but "your palate sucks" is such an odd insult that is used far too often on BA. Acknowledging that our palates are different seems far more useful (to me).

 

Actually if one is a true veteran taster all one need do is follow the rule of the 3 Ss--sniff, sip, and spit. The olfactory sense provides most of the information about flavors (estimates range between 75-90%). The sniff brings aromatics in through the nose. The sip provides the limited input the tastebuds are capable of processing and, more importantly, provides the retronasal system with aromatics. (Professional Whisky blenders in particular also find that the 3 Ss works best for them so they don't have to worry about driving home.)

 

Again, I’d agree if we were talking about preferences for what tastes good. But if the claim is that thousands of beers in a certain style taste identical, well then I’m sorry, but your palate actually isn’t good.

I actually doubt the person who said that really believes it, which is really what I’m trying to point out, that it’s a silly claim.

 

I'd be fine with spitting if it didn't so disgust fellow patrons. The foam in beer and frequency of large beards among craft beer enthusiasts are a particularly gross combination for spitting. But your point is accurate that far less liquid volume than people typically consume is necessary to get a very good sense of a beer.

 

Or that both of the ones that person tasted were similar to each other